Is it time for me to leave the Tavor?

Keep the Tavor or replace it with something else

  • Sell the Tavor and replace it with 2x AR/VZ/T97

    Votes: 119 40.8%

  • Keep it, it's cool and not too many of them around.

    Votes: 173 59.2%
  • Total voters
    292
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Ok, this has been nagging at me since some ergonomic issues caused me a major failure at a stage of the last competition I shot, which left me middle of the pack. Here's the deal.

The Tavor is my main shooter. I like almost everything about it. It goes with me to the range EVERY time, and as I said above, I shoot tactical rifle competitions with it. The main reason is... it's fricken' cool and short, and you don't see many around. I'd argue it's also my SHTF gun (still following the law) since it's compact and NR.

Normally, I love it. I don't even mind the squishy trigger. It has run almost flawlessly. On purpose, I have gone a year without cleaning it to see if it would fail. It has gone through at least 2400 rounds of ugly dirty Norinco ammo in the last 12 months without a squeeze of Froglube, and still runs like a cheerleader in a slasher flick.

But here's the problem... Every time I shoot a competition with it, I ALWAYS think to myself... damn, if I was shooting my AR, I'd have shaved a good 20 points off that time due to slower mag changes, or issues with bolt hold open, or various other ergonomic quirks. And then I think... if during competition, I have little f--k ups like mag changes and such... is it really that good a SHTF gun?

And then I think... if my life really depended on a gun, what would I grab? A VZ. No hesitation. My first "real" black (ok RED) rifle, a plain CZ858. It's also never missed a beat. And has never had a mag issue, or anything other trouble, ever. And I own more than a few of them.

And then I think... if I'm going back to an AR for competition... and my SHTF gun would be the VZ... why still own the Tavor? It doesn't share any parts with anything else I have. And while it isn't losing any money sitting there, for that cash, I could have 4x more VZs or 2 more decent ARs, or another XCR, or so on. (I should add that I'm not short of rifles, I've got more than enough, I just like them). Counterpoint - I'm nearly out of room in my safe, so I couldn't buy 4x more VZs if I wanted to, so I could only replace the Tavor with 1, maybe 2 others.

So that brings me to this poll... What would you do if you were me?
1) Sell the Tavor and maybe get another VZ or AR as well as a T97 for the same money?
2) Keep the Tavor just because it's fricken cool, don't need the cash so why not... and just buy another of the other rifles for kicks anyway.
 
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Keep your tavor. It's badass. And you can run it forever with out cleaning it. Do you really think a half a second faster mag change will save your life? And If You don't want your tavor to be your shtf gun because of mag changes wouldn't the vz be slower for that? And you already said you have a couple vz's. So why buy another one? And my last point is 10 rounds in a tavor. 5 rounds in a vz. Unless you have a .223 vz with the mag well adaptor.
 
1) You want to be the Best. Not with the Tavor
2) You want to Have piece of mind. Not with the Tavor.

3) You Don't want to keep second guessing yourself and have Confidence! Not with the Tavor.

Why keep a $3000 rifle that only keeps you 80% happy.?
 
I voted sell, but don't buy another AR, either improve what you have(better parts and/or brand) or invest in more ammo and training. Two of each is more than enough, ammo you can never have enough.

TDC
 
By the sounds of things you have more then enough guns in the cabinet why get rid of the most popular one... Make room by getting rid of others I'm my opinion! I love my Tavor and the fact that it NR, man I can't even imagine getting rid of mine even if it shot crappy!!!
 
Sounds like it could be a training issue because the manual of arms for the Tavor is not as developed as the AR. 2400 round is a small round count and also, you may want to re-examine every single movement you do with this system and analyze the reason behind each failure.

The ar is definitely easier to figure out because there is a huge knowledge base outthere. If you are committed to a new system with a thinner knowledge base , you probably need to accept a steeper learning curve as you may have to develop solutions on your own.
 
I'm not a competitive shooter, but the issues I've encountered relating to mag changes usually all come back to the way we have to alter our magazines to reduce their capacity, causing them to function differently then they were intended. Like loading a full( barf) mag on a closed bolt. That shouldn't be an issue with a regular mag. I wonder how it handle if run on full mags, say south of the border.

That might not necessarily help you with your competition situation, but that's the thread of reasoning I'm clinging to.
 
TDC said:
I voted sell, but don't buy another AR, either improve what you have(better parts and/or brand) or invest in more ammo and training. Two of each is more than enough, ammo you can never have enough.

TDC
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greentips said:
Sounds like it could be a training issue because the manual of arms for the Tavor is not as developed as the AR. 2400 round is a small round count and also, you may want to re-examine every single movement you do with this system and analyze the reason behind each failure.

The ar is definitely easier to figure out because there is a huge knowledge base outthere. If you are committed to a new system with a thinner knowledge base , you probably need to accept a steeper learning curve as you may have to develop solutions on your own.
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This!

If you really like the Tavor, identify the issues you're having and train them out!

Really though: it's your gun. If you're not using it, and feel like you'd be better served with an AR platform, then go for it!

Beyond just being a Tavor fan, I love being able to shoot in the bush. That's worth a lot to me in the summer-time.
 
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