is it true that pistols made before 1897 don't need PAL

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I heard recently that for pistols made before 1897 you don't need a PAL restricted or not to buy it.

and that you can carry it anywhere without having the transport rule.

i would like to take a pistol to shoot in the woods, this would be great,

i just want to make sure i am not breaking the law or anything..just want to verify to make sure
 
It can't be certain calibres like .45 Colt and there's no guarantee someone will actually sell it to someone without a license.
 
There is more to it then that. It has to not be chambered in the 11 most common rounds and cant he chambered in 22 rimfire

And its 1898.

No 22 rim fire or
32 Short Colt
.32 Long Colt
.32 Smith and Wesson
.32 Smith and Wesson Long
.32-20 Winchester
.38 Smith and Wesson
.38 Short Colt
.38 Long Colt
.38-40 Winchester
.44-40 Winchester
.45 Colt cartridges
 
Concealed carry loophole was the fuel for my pursuit of an antique. Turned out to be mistaken about the legality, found out before I spent to much.
 
More/less the ones that don't are obsolete calibers for which ammo doesn't exist anymore. The ones listed above like 45colt, 38-40 etc are all considered restricted regardless of age. And as already said, storage display & transport rules do apply... locked opaque container, etc etc.

Europe has much the same rules for the old guns that are pre-98 and in calibers that have gone obsolete. Once you look right into it, you begin to realize how collector-driven the antique class is.. some of that stuff requires a mortgage to ever acquire. Not like going to Cabelas for a $900 vaquero... tell ya that much. Bran-new Freedom Arms boutique single actions even quote out cheap compared to most antiques. It's a whole nother thing than it first seems.
 
Boltcarrier said:
I heard recently that for pistols made before 1897 you don't need a PAL restricted or not to buy it.

and that you can carry it anywhere without having the transport rule.

i would like to take a pistol to shoot in the woods, this would be great,

i just want to make sure i am not breaking the law or anything..just want to verify to make sure
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It's before 1898 as stated here by others.
You can't carry it anywhere. You can carry it when in a place you can discharge a non restricted firearm unless prohibited by provincial hunting laws or bylaws.
Again you can take it to shoot in the woods if permitted by provincial hunting laws, and bylaws.

Others have stated the calibers that don't qualify for antique status. They mention that they cannot be 22 rimfire. More accurately they cannot be 22 short, 22 long, or 22 long rifle. It therefore could be 22 Winchester magnum or other obscure 22 rimfires.

Lots of good advice and knowledge in the stickies for this subject in the Blackpowder and Antiques section.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/92-Blackpowder-and-Antiques

Cheers
Moe
 
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If the thing is registered as restricted, current policy is that it will not be reclassified as antique if the caliber is changed.
Previously, a conversion to .45ACP was acceptable.
 
Boltcarrier said:
I heard recently that for pistols made before 1897 you don't need a PAL restricted or not to buy it.

and that you can carry it anywhere without having the transport rule.

i would like to take a pistol to shoot in the woods, this would be great,

i just want to make sure i am not breaking the law or anything just want to verify to make sure
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In short, no. In long, its complicated.

SOME pistols made before 1897 do not require a PAL for possession to be lawful.
If a PAL is not required than you MAY be able to carry it in most places except where possession of firearms is expressly prohibited by some other statute.
Transport regulations do apply antiques, however as you do not require any authorization to transport or carry the firearm can be in use where use of a firearm is not expressly prohibited by some other statute.

There are circumstances where shooting an antique handgun in the woods would be lawful and there are circumstances where it would not be.

If you want to verify whether or not a particular behaviour or action is lawful you should consult a judge. Failing that a good lawyer would do.
 
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