Is IVI brass junk ????

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I purchased 2000 once fired casings and they are a mixture of headstamps. In the lot was a bunch of IVI brass. With a bit of googling I found they are Canadian. Out of about 200 or so casings I found over 30 like the ones in the pictures. The problem area can be felt with fingernail and very visible with proper lighting.No other casings in the whole lot had issues except for the IVI. This is just a heads up to those that may be purchasing some once fired brass. Have a good look at the IVI brass.I hope you can see the problem in the pics. Would you throw the rest of them out or load and recheck after firing ???
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It appears that the "ring" left is the furthest your resizing dies goes down the brass . Not really a problem as most dies do leave this ring. I have resized and fired the same brass many times and each time the "ring" appears. If noticeable cracks show up, it is time to look for new brass.

I personally love the IVI brass as it seems much more consistant in size and thicker brass. My .223 IVI brass has been reloaded up to 6 times with no issues. Little more work with the primer pockets, but once done,reloading is a breeze.
 
Winnipeg Toymaker said:
It appears that the "ring" left is the furthest your resizing dies goes down the brass . Not really a problem as most dies do leave this ring. I have resized and fired the same brass many times and each time the "ring" appears. If noticeable cracks show up, it is time to look for new brass.

I personally love the IVI brass as it seems much more consistant in size and thicker brass. My .223 IVI brass has been reloaded up to 6 times with no issues. Little more work with the primer pockets, but once done,reloading is a breeze.
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This is not a ring from a die !! It is hard to see in the picture but the crack, split ?? is not parallel to the head and it grabs my fingernail if I run it down the side. I noticed the first ones after all the prep and new primers installed and then checked the others before doing anything.When I get some time I will cut the casing to see if I can see anything inside.
 
These defects aren't uncommon on some once fired brass: for example, Glock pistols are notorious for bulging the brass where a part of the case is unsupported.
IVI is military brass and its thickness at the web is greater than most. I think Lee makes a die to iron out those "wrinkles". It will restore the original 9mm. case taper.
I would be more worried by the crimp at the primer pocket. Dillon makes a very good primer pocket swager just for that too.
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hk33ka1 said:
I dont think the Lee Bulge Buster will work for 9mm
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No it doesn't.

It can be used on the following cartridges. 380 Auto, 357 Sig, .40 S&W, 10mm, 400 Cor-Bon, .45GAP, .45 ACP, .45 Win Mag, 41AE

I use the RCBS Primer Pocket Swager Combo to take care of the crimp.

I have processed nearly a thousand IVI .40 S&W cases with no issues.
 
Take a short piece of wire and bend a short 90 degree hook on the end. Run the hook up and down inside the case to see of you can feel a crack in the case. If the inside is smooth the mark is just cosmetic.
 
BCboy said:
you should just be able to see it in a 9mm case
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BUT, its a good practice to get into, especially if he reloads other calibers (longer cases that aren't as easy to see into. ) I do that for all my rifle calibers, so its not always a bad thing to do. It will definately pick up a tiny crack easier that your eye will, especially if the lighting is poor.
 
90irocjustin said:
IVI is military brass. Technically the IVI is 9mm+p or 9x19mm NATO. Did you ream the primer pockets out yourself or were they like that already|?
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The answer to this question may provide a clue. If this, relatively thick, IVI brass has been reloaded X?? times, a work hardened ring at the web could mean trouble.

Really, its only 9, why #### with it ? Double Tap has some Starline 9 for sale.
 
I'd cut one and see if it was thin at the ridge. But the thickness of IVI brass is probably what caused the ridge. I'd save it for one of those days I can't recover my brass. In other words I'd shoot it.
 
sgt.rock said:
BUT, its a good practice to get into, especially if he reloads other calibers (longer cases that aren't as easy to see into. )
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but the OP is talking about 9mm cases here not longer cases or other calibers .........
but yes the paper clip trick is good for other calibers
 
Of all the pistol brass I've ever handled I've never seen or heard of brass separating like... 303 say. You size them all the way down and the ring will shrink to manageable size. When they crack, you're done. Don't get so wrapped up about it. Lot's of 9 around.
 
I reload for 3 calibres, and all my brass look like that regardless of brand (FC, WIN, REM, IVI). A Full length re-size should ease your concerns, but that never ever goes away completely

Are you new to the reloading game?
 
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