is my tokarev a cpiece pf ^&%$?

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I bought a 7.62 x 25. I took it out for the second time. shot 1 box through it in total. I could not hit the paper; but it is my first handgun. then it started jamming when ejecting. also the cartridges were duds(i thought) then after 3rd jamming I was getting annoyed.

I looked at gun its functions seemed fine. I let it sit then 20 minutes layter shot again on 3 rd round the slide jammed. I had a round in the barrel and one round stuck in between slide and the next round. so i took the second round out. Took out the mag. then pulled off the slide. took out the spring and the front insert tthat holds barrel in place. i then attempted to get the round out but the slide seems fixed to the round. The barrel wont come out.

I did not have a punch with me to completely tear this gun apart. so its got cartridge in it.......what the heck do i do?

also before tearing gun apart, and after putting it together the slide when i pull it back is tuck and wont move the silver ejctor seem to be bent or broken. it moves downward which prevents the slider from sliding.

any words of advice? is this common?
 
as a rule, the toks are strong as an ox , but this like doing surgery over the phone-i'd just take it to a smith
 
The exact same thing happened to me and the gentleman on the range said I was limp-wristing it. I didn't believe him until he fired a full mag or two without incident, and then handed it back to me where I jammed it 2 or 3 times in one magazine. In your case, though, it could be an extractor issue as you mention.
 
recoveringunut said:
I dont understand limp wristing it in context of it jamming....
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If your grip is loose, most of the recoil will be absorbed by your wrist, rather than holding the pistol firm allowing the slide to move with the recoil and eject/feed.

Poorly said, but does that make sense? Try holding it tighter and see if that helps. Also, is the pistol new? Well lubricated?
 
The gun is designed to be held firmly. If it twists in your hand the action does not work as designed and will cause problems like you have. Some designs are more sensitive to this than others. 1911s in .45 can also cause operational problems if not held right.
 
If you can't get the round out of the chamber you probably have a defective extractor, or gummed up ammo. Take it to a smith or a savvy friend to remove the round and see if the extractor is broken or jammed.
 
22Short_Improved said:
With the exception of some gas-operated, most of the handguns are in some way sensitive to limp-wristing.
But this very particular case may be related to some other factors as well.
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Personally, I think the limp wristing issue is overstated. I intentionally tried firing various semi-autos with a loose grip, and never had any problems. I think limp wristing-related jams occur mostly with weaker calibers like .25, .32, and .380.
 
capp325 said:
Personally, I think the limp wristing issue is overstated. I intentionally tried firing various semi-autos with a loose grip, and never had any problems. I think limp wristing-related jams occur mostly with weaker calibers like .25, .32, and .380.
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Maybe you just are too good at shooting to experience the problem. ;)

I have a S&W model 41. I shoot it well until I have to shoot rapid fire in a competition. I always end up getting jams & stove pipes. If I really concentrate on my grip then the problem goes away. I switch to my High Standard and I don't have the problem anymore.

The problem is not actually a loose grip but a wrist that is not locked. Holding the gun tightly but letting your wrist flex and rotate causes the problem.

Some guns using the 45 ACP cartridge also experience the problem.
 
CAPP 325;
I hate to contra dict you, BUT you can cause many a higher power handguns to malfunction if you do not hold them firmly.... This is also true of some full auto weapons.... SO hold on tight....
John
 
wow, i love all the feedback....I hold it with locked wrist yes....my wrists are strong....i have been single fer a couple years...hahaa.....nonetheless....i will take it back to the store i bought from i just nervous transporting it with a roundf in it if i were to get stopped.
 
If you have a round in the barrel, transport it disassembled. Also if you are going to try to remove the round from the barrel with a rod , use a brass rod as close to barrel diameter as you can find. Never use wood , wood may work sometimes but usually it will break or split over the bullet and screw things up royally.
 
I recently bought a norico tokarev combo and can not fault it at all, it functions flawlessly with both 9mm and 7.62 barrels. It has a nice predictable trigger too. I am a bit disapointed with the 7.62 x 25mm cartridge, it is not half as wild as I was expecting it to be.I have loaded some hot 9mm stuff, it handles them nicely.

I can't hit anything with it either, but I think it's my lack of pistol experience that's to blame for that.
 
Saw a guy at the range shooting a Tokarev in the 7.62x25, and it was surprisingly accurate. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that pistol is butt ugly to me. :D
 
Well man, I appreciate the feedback here......I dealt with it. I took it to the store I bought from, good guys. Cartridge was removed and the system of the cam and lugs on barrel was explained. It looks as if there is something broken while cartridge stuck but actually was not.

The hot loads of czech ammo created enough heat to seize the cartridge coating(varathane type stuff). So it glued itself in the barrel. When i try ejecting it and then took gun apart I was on right path but was a lil uneasy due to my lack of knowledge. I was encouraged and acknowledged for my level of inquiry and told to not sweat it. I was broke but i still bought more ammo because he did a service for me.

Good service recieves more money somehow from me.....anyways thanks guys
 
Allstone said:
Saw a guy at the range shooting a Tokarev in the 7.62x25, and it was surprisingly accurate. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that pistol is butt ugly to me.
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+1

Shot a few Tokarevs over the years... never cared to own one, though...
 
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