Is now the time to get rid of classifications?

Edgey said:
Reclassification of the Valmet seems the more likely result of that logic. Remember classification is in the hands of bureaucrats, not the gov't of the day. Far better to change the act and regulations than to try to work within them in the current order. IE remove the whole OIC aspect of classification, so it's strictly based on characteristics of the firearm. Remove ATT requirements, that sort of thing.
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Where did I mention anything about asking the bureaucrats? They only classify new firearms according to C-68 criterias or reclassify based on technicalities. They can't remove exceptions specifically written in legislation like the Valmets.

I was saying that the fact no crimes were committed with a Valmet (non-restricted AK-variant) gives the government a good argument to remove all AKs and variants from the prohib list (in response to "it's never gonna happen"). Of course I'd much prefer if they just got rid of the whole thing! But if that was offered I wouldn't mind.
 
We can't listen to the never going to happen crowd,these are the same peoplt who said the LGR would never be defeated. Like Mark Holland we need to go after the next politician that works against us. Once we have a reputation we are safe
 
Has anyone, anyone at all, hear ANYONE in the Harper gov't say anything positive about relaxing firearms law beyond abolition of the LGR?

I think not. Until that happens, I'm not optimistic.

A good start would be joining the CPC and getting your voice heard at the local riding association, talking to your MP as a party member would help as well.
 
The Conservatives promised an end to the LGR (and nothing else as far as I know), got voted in, and are doing what they promised.

It will take a couple of years for them to recover any votes they may lose (and the opposition parties may gain) due to this.

By then we will be heading into the run up for the next election. They can then make some new promises to gain/keep the votes of shooters, which they will keep if they again achieve a majority.

We just have to speak with one clear voice with regard to what we want. End of ATTs, de-restrict the AR, do away with mag limits, all of the above. They will choose whatever is likely to keep our support, and lose them the least votes, and that will be the new election promise to keep us on side.

YMMV.

Regards.

Mark
 
MWL said:
The Conservatives promised an end to the LGR (and nothing else as far as I know), got voted in, and are doing what they promised.

It will take a couple of years for them to recover any votes they may lose (and the opposition parties may gain) due to this.

By then we will be heading into the run up for the next election. They can then make some new promises to gain/keep the votes of shooters, which they will keep if they again achieve a majority.

We just have to speak with one clear voice with regard to what we want. End of ATTs, de-restrict the AR, do away with mag limits, all of the above. They will choose whatever is likely to keep our support, and lose them the least votes, and that will be the new election promise to keep us on side.

YMMV.

Regards.

Mark
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I believe they could do more than that before the next election. Adding prohibs back onto the range ATT would be an easy start that would fly under the radar.

Another would be standardizing range ATT's so they include gun shows and gunsmiths in every province.

After that, make ATTs permanent so long as your RPAL is valid and ATT's are valid to all legal ranges, gunsmiths, post offices and gun shows automatically.

Finally, do away with restrictions on AR15's with barrels over 18.5" - that could be done by OIC as I understand it. Easy argument that the Ar15 is the best selling sporting rifle in the USA last year. Even Remington makes one.
 
That's possible, but it may take a while before they do anything else.

They will probably want the dust to settle on the LGR issue, and make sure that they don't get bit on the ass with a mass shooting/loss of the ozone layer/whatever the opposition care to lay the blame on the end of the LGR for.

Regards.

Mark
 
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