Is that normal in a Glock way ?

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Just back from the range. I first put 100 rounds of .45 trough my Colt 1911 (Wiley Clapp with a match barrell). As usual, I get fantastic accuracy from that gun. Then I switched to my Glock 17. The first 2 mags, I had problems hitting the paper ( 8,5X11) at 10 yards. It was so tough to adjust from the 1911 to the Glock. Then after a few mags, things got better. I ended up grouping not so bad, but not so great either. I like the way Glocks fit in my hands but I am not very good with them...

Thanks for reading...

Gilbert
 
I find a 1911 much nicer to use when shooting bullseye.

But I have fond that when shooting rapid fire in action shooting, i get better results with the Glock. The Glock trigger is shot like a double action revolver.
 
Whenever I think I'm getting "Good"…. I shoot my Glock or Revolver(in dbl action). Both make me get back to the fundamentals of trigger control.
The trigger on my buddy's Les Baer 1911 can make just about anyone look "Good" shooting bullseye...
 
If you can't hit a piece of paper at 10y....then I would think there are some fundamental problems with the way you're shooting (no offense)
 
Its your trigger control.

Make sure to take up the slack, add smooth pressure "don't pull the trigger or slap it" and do a proper follow through "hold the trigger to the rear after you fire".
 
Ganderite said:
I find a 1911 much nicer to use when shooting bullseye.

But I have fond that when shooting rapid fire in action shooting, i get better results with the Glock. The Glock trigger is shot like a double action revolver.
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No it is not. Block pistols have a classic two stage feel to them, lots of slack then a defined "wall" or break. Pulling all the way through like is done on a revolver will get you nowhere fast. Dsiwy has it right, removing the slack, break the shot, and work the reset by letting the trigger return forward only far enough to hear and feel the trigger reset.

Dsiwy said:
Its your trigger control.

Make sure to take up the slack, add smooth pressure "don't pull the trigger or slap it" and do a proper follow through "hold the trigger to the rear after you fire".
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Very different grip angles between the two platforms as well that can take a bit of adjustment when switching from one to the other.

Auggie D.
 
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If you can't hit a piece of paper at 10y....then I would think there are some fundamental problems with the way you're shooting (no offense)
DT741 said:
This. No offense
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I said I had problems getting on the paper for the first 2 mags. I did not say I was completely missing the target every round. After I adjusted to the switch from the 1911 to the Glock, it got better. I am not the best shot in the world but I am not the worst either... And yes I think you guys are right, I am new to Glocks and the trigger gives me a hard time.

Gilbert
 
Auggie Doggie said:
Very different grip angles between the two platforms as well that can take a bit of adjustment when switching from one to the other.

Auggie D.
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This. You are moving from an 18 degree grip angle (from Vertical) to a 22 degree grip angle. And a wider grip to boot. This will play all sorts of havoc with your trigger finger placement, wrist angle, thumb-side grip and generally f/u your accuracy (because, as we all know, trigger control is fundamental to good accuracy and most often the reason that accuracy suffers).
 
Gillis2 said:
Quote Originally Posted by Onagoth View Post

If you can't hit a piece of paper at 10y....then I would think there are some fundamental problems with the way you're shooting (no offense)

I said I had problems getting on the paper for the first 2 mags. I did not say I was completely missing the target every round. After I adjusted to the switch from the 1911 to the Glock, it got better. I am not the best shot in the world but I am not the worst either...

Gilbert
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Read quickly with cellphone.

I need some adjustments shots when I switch pistols too. Happens :p
 
Chrossphyre said:
This. You are moving from an 18 degree grip angle (from Vertical) to a 22 degree grip angle. And a wider grip to boot. This will play all sorts of havoc with your trigger finger placement, wrist angle, thumb-side grip and generally f/u your accuracy (because, as we all know, trigger control is fundamental to good accuracy and most often the reason that accuracy suffers).
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I disagree, maybe I just shoot a lot but I can group well with any pistol, revolver or shooting up side down with my pinky on the trigger. The whole grip angle thing is complete BS IMO, unless you're shooting multiple targets fast. Grip angle can easily be adjusted to when doing slow fire practices.

Stance and grip don't play as great a role as trigger control, sight alignment and finger placement.
 
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DT741 no offense taken. We are all friends here. Thanks for your comment.
As for all the others, thanks for your comments to my post and for sharing your experiences. I am Learning a lot here.

Gilbert
 
Gilbert what range do you goto? maybe one of the better shooters could help coach you if they're near by.

Mil/LE guns like the Glock are just as Accurate as most 1911's but their triggers are less forgiving to sloppy trigger control. Master the trigger and you will be shooting just as good as your 1911.

Dry firing at home helps a lot too, pick a point to aim at and dry firing the gun with out making the sights jump off the target as you pull the trigger.
 
Dsiwy you are right. There are much more experienced shooters than me at my range (CRAFM). Asking for pointers to improve my shooting abilities is certainly a good idea. Also it is good to know that a Glock is inherently accurate. I think that I have to master the trigger. As a matter of fact, I have noticed at the end of my session with the Glock that I have a tendency to lower the muzzle when I press on the trigger. I don't seem to do that as much with my 1911 and with my Smith 41.

Thanks

Gilbert
 
Sounds like the longer, heavy trigger pull of the Glock is making you anticipate the shot. Practice the drying firing drill and slow your trigger pull until you stop flinching down. let the shot surprise you and once you get better then speed it up. Also when practicing hold the trigger to the rear for 1sec after you fire, this will break the bad habit of over reseting.

Dry firing is the best way to do this as you can see every mistake and its cheap :p
 
I like to shoot a couple of mags at Steel before target shooting for 3 reasons....firstly I will climatize to the new trigger( I shoot lots of different makes and calibers) ..secondly I have to recall p.o.a...(mostly combat, but there are exceptions)....and lastly I never shoot accurately with a freshly cleaned and oiled barrel.....jmho
 
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