Is the Mosin Nagant M91/30 Sniper that tradex sells a reproduction scope?

Claven where this comes from? I can put whatever markings you want on it. Even your name. Send me a picture of markings that supposed to be there.
We are after the quality of the scope and mounts it is made at Russian plant (Novosibirsk) that was making those for Russian military during 1940-45. It is not Ukranian which is by the way not so bad also.
Tell me what is that you do not like about those? email me info@westrifle.com
I encourage everyone to do that.

Claven2 said:
Hey fiddler - ever try not being an @sshat?

And by the way, the westrifle mounts are not very authentic looking from what I have seen and their scopes are not even close with modern markings, etc. It you want junk, then yes, you can do it cheap - like you - cheap and full of cheap-shots.
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Well, as someone who is both a tool and die maker and industrial maintenance mechanic with over 20 years in I found Claven's comments intelligent, useful and well stated in a polite in helpful manner. He was pointing out the difficulties that can be encountered and why it may not be worth trying to deal with them when a small investment more will get the thing your after done right the first time.

Why another poster chose to climb up his ass and impute arrogance and hubris to him is beyond me. Though there does seem to be a surfit of both these commodities in his anti Claven tirades.

Carry on Claven, your comments are useful and helpful both. Sorry bout the static.......:rolleyes:
 
If you are referring about westrifle climbing Claven's ass. You are so wrong. If you want something authentic looking you get one without the stamp. By the way for everyone who ever so PU scope from military warehouse ( I am one of those) you would know that at the time of war those were made from crushed window glass. It is not such good quality scope.
I have nothing against Claven's comment I just want to know what is consider to be authentic looking Repo.

Regards,

Cocked&Locked said:
Well, as someone who is both a tool and die maker and industrial maintenance mechanic with over 20 years in I found Claven's comments intelligent, useful and well stated in a polite in helpful manner. He was pointing out the difficulties that can be encountered and why it may not be worth trying to deal with them when a small investment more will get the thing your after done right the first time.

Why another poster chose to climb up his ass and impute arrogance and hubris to him is beyond me. Though there does seem to be a surfit of both these commodities in his anti Claven tirades.

Carry on Claven, your comments are useful and helpful both. Sorry bout the static.......:rolleyes:
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sergey96 said:
If you are referring about westrifle climbing Claven's ass. You are so wrong. If you want something authentic looking you get one without the stamp. By the way for everyone who ever so PU scope from military warehouse ( I am one of those) you would know that at the time of war those were made from crushed window glass. It is not such good quality scope.
I have nothing against Claven's comment I just want to know what is consider to be authentic looking Repo.

Regards,[/QUOTE Its not my intention to say bad things abouts your optics and the repro sniper you sell. I believe in the quality of your scope, but like what was said,if i'm right, your scope are painted and the mount are cast. Doesnt mean they are bad but its not appropriate looking for a repro sniper. Again if i'm correct, war time M91/30 sniper had harwood stock, blued steel scope with thick reticle post and the mount where machined, not cast. Unless i can obtain an original wartime scope or complete sniper rifle, the ukrainian sniper clone are the more faithful repro we can possibly have and they are nicely assembled even if some look better than the others. In a perfect world, the ukrainian scope should have rounded screws on their turret instead of flat ones but we cannot really complain, their repro scope seem,s very solid and of very good quality. Hope that will clarify what we look for in a proper looking repro sniper. regards

jocelyn
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mg4201 said:
when I built my repro mosin sniper I built the bolt handle like this: 1 bandsaw off the bolt knob as close to the knob as possible then cut the handle off where the bolt rises up to meet the handle. Mic the knob. set the knob in the vise and orient the handle stub vertical in x and y. pick up the back vise jaw and move in half the diameter minus .100 set y to zero. pick up one edge of the ball then move in half diameter plus .100 set x to zero. move to x 0 y 0 center drill drill and tap 3/8-16. then just bend and cut a long 3/8 16 bolt till it matches the profile that you want and thread the opposite end in the lathe or with a die. I drilled and tapped the bolt body and threaded the new handle on so I could cut and bend the new handle till i was happy with it. then I screwed the origional bolt knob onto the new handle and had it tig welded cost maybe 10 bucks. the ball jig work work too but time is money right. Happy shooting.
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I've done it that way before and also a well known PU bolt modifier in the US is using this method. It works, but turning a new integral ball in the lathe is a more authentic way to go IMHO - though admittedly not everyone has a lathe and a special attachment to cut balls ;)
 
you know I built a ball turning tool in college but

I have never used it. but i think that i will try it if customer work ever slows down. I think you are right though the ball and handle as one piece is pretty elegant. I will have to try it. making chips is fun.
 
sergey96 said:
If you are referring about westrifle climbing Claven's ass. You are so wrong. If you want something authentic looking you get one without the stamp. By the way for everyone who ever so PU scope from military warehouse ( I am one of those) you would know that at the time of war those were made from crushed window glass. It is not such good quality scope.
I have nothing against Claven's comment I just want to know what is consider to be authentic looking Repo.

Regards,
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actually, more about the attack on Claven cautioning folk that it's not as simple a procedure as it might appear. I don't really give a gnat's toot about the mounts/scope long as it works. If i ever pick one up it will be as a shooter. If i have access to a mill at that point i may mount on myself, more like for the small premium i'll just purchase a repro.
 
I have one of the snipers, which I haven't fired yet, but it looks great and the bore is pristine. Wouldn't the PU scopes be considered re-issue, rather than reproduction, as the they are made by the same factory that made the originals.....Just thinkin out load.
 
berger said:
I have one of the snipers, which I haven't fired yet, but it looks great and the bore is pristine. Wouldn't the PU scopes be considered re-issue, rather than reproduction, as the they are made by the same factory that made the originals.....Just thinkin out load.
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If it is recently made, it's repro. To list a new made repro scope as reissue would be very misleading.

The Original PU were only made in a certain time frame. The PU was also refurbed/rebuild and reissued.
The Dragunov Sniper was the replacement in 1962 IIRC.
 
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