Is the Ruger 10/22 all it's cracked up to be?

Interesting short article with some testing on factory barrel.

https://rifleshooter.com/2015/11/ruger-1022-accuracy-upgrade/

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It would be interesting to see a controlled side by side factory rifle accuracy shoot out with different makes and models.
I wonder in how many instances the rifles are more accurate than the shooter, or cheap ammo?...but the rifle is blamed (regardless of make).
 
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Interesting short article with some testing on factory barrel.

https://rifleshooter.com/2015/11/ruger-1022-accuracy-upgrade/

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It would be interesting to see a controlled side by side factory rifle accuracy shoot out with different makes and models.
I wonder in how many instances the rifles are more accurate than the shooter, or cheap ammo?...but the rifle is blamed (regardless of make).

I think its more common that people blame themselves rather than the rifle. Even a complete novice will see a huge change in group size when going from a Ruger to a custom 10/22.

If people were realistic, Ruger wouldn’t sell 10/22’s anymore.
 
My least favourite 22. There are SO many better options!

Gee. That's really helpful! /sarcasm.

Say what, say why, be at least a little bit useful.

Folks wanting a Target rifle to compete with, need to expect to pay Target Rifle costs, both for the rifle, and the ammo.

Seems to me, like a lot of folks paid for a Pontiac Fiero, and expected to run with the Ferarri crowd. You won't, not even if you dress it up in a lot of expensive accessories.
For what it is, which is a basic semi auto with a lot of options to spend more money on it, it's usually a pretty good choice. I know I am not in any hurry to get rid of mine.

It's not the gold standard for about anything except aftermarket parts availability. But on average, they work, well enough. If it feels good, it's worth a try. If you don't like the looks or the feel of it when you are handling it, try others.
If you want to run in the races, you gotta pay! :)
 
I've tweeked up and hunted with a fair batch of 10/22's since the mid 70's and have had great squirrel busting missions with the buggers especially Richardson ground squirrels on gopher safaris to Alberta. I built up one fer me sweetie a wee back that be set up like my gopher nuker that we used back in the early 90's that she most loved to shoot.
Folks cant really go wrong with the platform for the fun stuff. They be fun to tinker on to boot. ;)

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I have a knock off of a 10/22, the RIA M22. It is made in the phillipines by armscor and is mostly interchangeable with ruger parts. The barrel shank size differs, I have been told. I got mine at crappy tire 5 yrs ago for less than 200 after tax. I threw a cheap scope on it and did some reshaping of the stock because it had the feel of a 2x6.
In my backyard my targets are 100 feet from the bench and I can shoot 1" 10 shot groups at that range. I have no regrets on cheaping out on the knock off, it shoots as well as any ruger I have fired.
 
Say what, say why

Alright.

I’ve bought the 10/22 now three times trying to “get it”. There’s just nothing to get. It’s not a good gun when considering the competition. Each time I buy it I swear to give it a fair shake thinking I must be missing something but I always come up empty.

The rifle feels clunky. It’s bolt release/lockback rocker is pretty strange. Oh, once you know how to use it, it’s usable but it’s not easy for someone picking up the rifle for the first time to learn. It doesn’t have a last shot bolt bolt hold open which leaves the kids counting instead of focusing on the important bits. Similar problem with the mag release as the bolt release.

It feels like a kids toy but not in a good way for the kids. That heavy drop at the stock and crescent buttplate are non-ergonomic at best.

When I or my kids handle, say, the nylon 66 it feels like a well thought out gun. It handles and points right. They can work it without trying to remember little tricks.

I can say the same thing about the marlin 60 with it’s simple bolt release and last shot hold open. It just works. It’s easy to understand and use. When either kid or adult carrier or shoulders it, it feels like a gun should feel. No problems.

The 10/22 feels aweful im the hand and on the shoulder. There’s no other way to say it but it feels OFF.

The last one I bought is a recent production stainless model. The iron sights weren’t aligned with the barrel from the factory and after scoping, an attempt was made to remove the front sight. Turns out, that’s no possible! (Practically). It seems Ruger now uses some kind of epoxy under its front sight. There are lots of reports of people de-indexing their barrel trying to tap it out. Most people, it seems, end up using a Dremmel tool to cut the front sight into peices for removal. Ridiculous!

The trigger is possibly the worst I have ever squeezed on a 22 at a measured 6.5 mushy pounds! I bought and installed a bx-2 trigger which was light at 2.5 but still mushy with tones of overtravel. Creep city.

Hell, even the Remington 597 feels and points like a firearm, has a last shot hold open, easy bolt release, easy magazine release, adjustable sights (with adjustment screws!), removable sights without destroying them, and a trigger that doesn’t have too much creep. Sure, it’s a bit heavy at 4lbs (not not 6.5!) but it breaks fairly clearly and stops crisply.

The accuracy: goodness - my oldest son can shoot some of my 22s at 1/4” groups from a rest at 50m but that 10/22 in the same rest with the same shooter looks like someone was patterning a .410.

The bottom line is this for me: I hate the look and feel of the 10/22. The controls are clunky and poor. It doesn’t feel right to shoulder or carry. It’s not accurate. But the real thing is: my kids hate it! They hate the fidley controls and how it feels in general. When shooting it, they’ll invariably ask to instead shoot the old Remington (nylon 66) or the new Remington (597) or the Marlin, or the henry, or the “really accurate one”. They can’t wait to get the 10/22 out of their hands.

I always check with the kids before sending any 22s or smaller center fire rifles down the road and when I brought up selling the 10/22 no one cared. My oldest made a point to tell me which ones NOT to sell (all of the others) but the 10/22? No problem.


Here’s the thing with the rifle in my view: it’s not a good rifle out of the box. In fact,I’d say it’s one of the worst in stock form. It’s not a rifle so much as a platform. It’s the Barbie doll of the gun world.

I’ve heard the 10/22 is a decent rifle if you just replace the stock, the barrel, extractor, trigger, bolt release, mag release, etc. Yep, if you replace every part in it, it can be a GREAT rifle. Otherwise, no thanks!
 
People have been known to put the insert away for safety sakes when storing, never to be seen again.

An incredibly stupid thing to do, and some incredibly stupid people keep doing that. Taking guns apart and hiding the pieces in various locations that is.

Re: 10/22, they are like a Glock as in parts available everywhere and easy to keep running or customize as desired. A huge plus in my opinion.
 
As everyone said already the great thing about the 1022 is you can swap parts easily which is not to be neglected because today almost every guns have crappy trigger so just its nice. If you have small hands mauybe the 1022 will feel awkwards, I have big hands so for me it feels great, kinda like the glock 17-19 grip.
 
I’m sorely tempted to upgrade from a stock 10/22 in a x22 hunter stock to a Bergara BXR Carbon...

I’ve tried a bunch of things to make the 10/22 à more accurate rifle and I’ve been largely let down. Not looking to dump much more money into it at this point.
 
If you have small hands mauybe the 1022 will feel awkwards, I have big hands so for me it feels great,

I’m sorry, what? I’m 6’ tall and find full sized centre fire rifles comfortable such as the Winchester model 70 and lots of Weatherby rifles. I have large hands.

Why would large hands make the 10/22 more “comfortable”? It’s a tiny rifle. I have large hands, my kids have small hands. None of us find it comfortable. Comfort for a rifle doesn’t usually have much, if anything, to do with hand size....
 
Alright.

I’ve bought the 10/22 now three times trying to “get it”. There’s just nothing to get. It’s not a good gun when considering the competition. Each time I buy it I swear to give it a fair shake thinking I must be missing something but I always come up empty.

The rifle feels clunky. It’s bolt release/lockback rocker is pretty strange. Oh, once you know how to use it, it’s usable but it’s not easy for someone picking up the rifle for the first time to learn. It doesn’t have a last shot bolt bolt hold open which leaves the kids counting instead of focusing on the important bits. Similar problem with the mag release as the bolt release.

It feels like a kids toy but not in a good way for the kids. That heavy drop at the stock and crescent buttplate are non-ergonomic at best.

When I or my kids handle, say, the nylon 66 it feels like a well thought out gun. It handles and points right. They can work it without trying to remember little tricks.

I can say the same thing about the marlin 60 with it’s simple bolt release and last shot hold open. It just works. It’s easy to understand and use. When either kid or adult carrier or shoulders it, it feels like a gun should feel. No problems.

The 10/22 feels aweful im the hand and on the shoulder. There’s no other way to say it but it feels OFF.

The last one I bought is a recent production stainless model. The iron sights weren’t aligned with the barrel from the factory and after scoping, an attempt was made to remove the front sight. Turns out, that’s no possible! (Practically). It seems Ruger now uses some kind of epoxy under its front sight. There are lots of reports of people de-indexing their barrel trying to tap it out. Most people, it seems, end up using a Dremmel tool to cut the front sight into peices for removal. Ridiculous!

The trigger is possibly the worst I have ever squeezed on a 22 at a measured 6.5 mushy pounds! I bought and installed a bx-2 trigger which was light at 2.5 but still mushy with tones of overtravel. Creep city.

Hell, even the Remington 597 feels and points like a firearm, has a last shot hold open, easy bolt release, easy magazine release, adjustable sights (with adjustment screws!), removable sights without destroying them, and a trigger that doesn’t have too much creep. Sure, it’s a bit heavy at 4lbs (not not 6.5!) but it breaks fairly clearly and stops crisply.

The accuracy: goodness - my oldest son can shoot some of my 22s at 1/4” groups from a rest at 50m but that 10/22 in the same rest with the same shooter looks like someone was patterning a .410.

The bottom line is this for me: I hate the look and feel of the 10/22. The controls are clunky and poor. It doesn’t feel right to shoulder or carry. It’s not accurate. But the real thing is: my kids hate it! They hate the fidley controls and how it feels in general. When shooting it, they’ll invariably ask to instead shoot the old Remington (nylon 66) or the new Remington (597) or the Marlin, or the henry, or the “really accurate one”. They can’t wait to get the 10/22 out of their hands.

I always check with the kids before sending any 22s or smaller center fire rifles down the road and when I brought up selling the 10/22 no one cared. My oldest made a point to tell me which ones NOT to sell (all of the others) but the 10/22? No problem.


Here’s the thing with the rifle in my view: it’s not a good rifle out of the box. In fact,I’d say it’s one of the worst in stock form. It’s not a rifle so much as a platform. It’s the Barbie doll of the gun world.

I’ve heard the 10/22 is a decent rifle if you just replace the stock, the barrel, extractor, trigger, bolt release, mag release, etc. Yep, if you replace every part in it, it can be a GREAT rifle. Otherwise, no thanks!

Thanks for that! Not sarcasm!

I chucked the bolt hold open on mine, really early on, as I stated in another post in this thread.

With the exception of that, I have not seen fit to make any real changes to mine, and it is my go-to, if I have to dig out a rifle to deal with farm vermin, gophers, grouse, rabbits, and the odd coyote.

As I had said to the OP, ergonomics, aka; 'feel' is a big deal, and what feels right to me may not work for others. I'm 6'1", and don't have huge hands.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Lt8jJ1yZI

This rifle seems to incredibly well designed. I haven’t had one yet but the OP might consider it. That dog legged AK style rod and easily removable bolt from the rear looks wonderful! It’s apparently quite accurate and purportedly has a decent trigger.

No personal experience but the design seems well thought out!

You can clean the barrel from the breach like a bolt of lever action!
 
Looking to buy a .22lr for rabbit and squirrels. My research keeps bringing me back to the Ruger 10/22. There's so many variations of it I'm not sure where to start or which one would work best. What's everyone's experience with a 10/22?

If you are into mediocre accuracy it's a pretty reliable semi auto for blasting away. I have no use for a semi auto .22, I much prefer a bolt action with better accuracy.
 
If you are into mediocre accuracy it's a pretty reliable semi auto for blasting away. I have no use for a semi auto .22, I much prefer a bolt action with better accuracy.

Pretty much it. If you want to shoot tin cans get a 10/22, if you want to shoot nice groups/targets/ small stuff get a good bolt action with a decent trigger.
 
I think the OP - Country and Caliber - had his answers within the first 20 replies. Can't we let this thread die?? I'm tired of seeing it at the top of the list !!
 
I think most of this from an Australian guy wanting cheap, cheap improvements to a stock 10/22. So, the barrel is held on to the receiver with a clamp - if you can slide that barrel tenon into the receiver, it is not tight - there is slop! - or you would need to press it in. Then, only one action screw - relies on the stock inletting to keep the rear of receiver from slopping side to side when fired - quite a loose fit. Spend many hundreds on goodies and still have these two basic issues. So, his solution, which I have done - it took 13 layers of aluminum foil tape on sides of the rear of the receiver - 6 on one side, 7 on the other - makes the rear of receiver a tight squish fit into that wood stock - no wiggling going on any more. About three wraps of vinyl electricians tape around the barrel at the forearm tip - keeps the barrel centered in that stock channel, and definite "up" pressure against that barrel-to-receiver clamp. Then, also file and emory cloth out on underside of that barrel band - so not touching barrel at all - "free air clearance". I installed a set of Williams Fire sights (fibre optic front and aperture rear) and turned it into a really great, cheap, plinker! And to re-iterate - is CHEAP to get excellent performance - do not have to spend hundreds of dollars in "stuff", unless you want to...
 
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