Is the Winchester model 70 E.W. in .308 a short action?

Buckmastr said:
With removal of the mag spacer, the blade ejector needed to be altered so that it didn’t interfere with the longer round coming up from below.

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That's interesting, I will look at that tonight.
I would like to see one of these with the full length mag box in 257 Roberts. That would be the 3" 257 that Jack O'connor wrote about.

David
 
Mine was originally a M70 SA in 243 Win that was rebarreled to a 6mm Rem. The spacer was removed and now the mag box measures 3.08”

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Thanks for showing the mag box Buckmastr.
I looked at it last night and that would make a perfect 257 Roberts mag box as the 6 mm and 257 are the same case.
Who did the mods on the magazine box?

David
 
sgt.rock said:
I am the proud owner of an Extreme weather Winny in .30-06 and love the gun every which way from Sunday. I bought it in this caliber because it was all that was available. I really really wanted one in .308win but never did find one. I cannot find any info online as to whether it is a short action or blocked off long action. Does anyone own one in a short action chambering (.243, 308, 300wsm, etc) that can verify if it is truly a short action? These guns seem rarer than hens teeth...
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Could someone explain what a blocked off long action is ?
Thanks
Arctic Lake
 
Leavenworth said:
Could someone explain what a blocked off long action is ?
Thanks
Arctic Lake
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Sure, It's when a long action is used to house a shorts action cartridge. The manufacturer installs a spacer in the back of the magazine box to reduce the length for the short cartridge. The pre64 model 70 Winchester is a good example.
Early Post 64 push feeds were also the same till somewhere in the 1980s.
I believe the Tikka rifles are the same.

David
 
Some manufacturers only make one length of action, yet chamber short, medium and long cartridges in it. (Tikka for example) Since a .223 is not optimal in a gun that can house a .30-06, they need to shorten the magazine and thus the length of travel for the cartridge by putting a block or spacer at the back of the mag box.
 
Okay still have a couple of questions regarding this short action long action topic . So if some manufactures use short calibers in long action rifles they put a spacer in the magazine for the shorter cartridge correct ? Then does the bolt draw as far back as a long action ? Is the bolt for a short action shorter than a bolt for a long action ? I'm still learning about all things rifles !
Thanks for you help !
Leavenworth
 
Leavenworth said:
Okay still have a couple of questions regarding this short action long action topic . So if some manufactures use short calibers in long action rifles they put a spacer in the magazine for the shorter cartridge correct ? Then does the bolt draw as far back as a long action ? Is the bolt for a short action shorter than a bolt for a long action ? I'm still learning about all things rifles !
Thanks for you help !
Leavenworth
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#1 This is correct, as far as the Winchesters are concerned.
#2 The bolt stops are longer and the bolt only draws back to clear the cartridge in the magazine.
#3 A short cartridge in a long action has a long action bolt, But a short action cartridge in a short action rifle has a shorter bolt. Hope that makes sense.

David
 
257Roberts said:
#1 This is correct, as far as the Winchesters are concerned.
#2 The bolt stops are longer and the bolt only draws back to clear the cartridge in the magazine.
#3 A short cartridge in a long action has a long action bolt, But a short action cartridge in a short action rifle has a shorter bolt. Hope that makes sense.

David
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Hi David
Hi think I have got it . I think , LOL ! In your opinion would it be better to have a true short action for a short action caliber rather than a long action made to shoot a short action cartridge ? Hope I'm making sense here ! Thank you for the reply !
Leavenworth
 
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