I have noticed lately the price of new guns are creeping up. Some of the new guns I bought last year are now a couple hundred dollars more, I know the weakness in dollar doesn't help but seems like prices are increasing higher than usual. I know shops have different prices and sometimes prices from one to another is quite a difference but just wondering if anyone knows if tariffs apply to guns.
Is there a steel/aluminum tariff on guns??
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I just did some research since nobody seems to know and I guess there is.
http://https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-02/how-trump-s-tariffs-are-impacting-american-gun-makers
“Sturm Ruger is certainly not alone in facing rising input costs as a result of the recently implemented new tariffs on imported steel,” Rommel Dionisio, a gun industry analyst at Aegis Capital Corp., told Bloomberg News.
http://https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-02/how-trump-s-tariffs-are-impacting-american-gun-makers
“Sturm Ruger is certainly not alone in facing rising input costs as a result of the recently implemented new tariffs on imported steel,” Rommel Dionisio, a gun industry analyst at Aegis Capital Corp., told Bloomberg News.
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Fortunately, Norinco is not affected by Trumpian tariffs. Lol
Yes, there are new duties that we are all paying. As per the schedule I have seen it looks like a 3.5% on any pistol or pistol part coming from the US, and 7.5% on rifle and rifle parts. Pretty ugly pill to swallow, even worse when it's from our own Government.
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Customs stuff is difficult, and I am not practising in this field, but…
Firearms do not have a fee listed in the Customs Tariff (Article 9898.00.00); so long as the understandably strict importation controls are met, you don't have to pay extra.
Nor are firearms dinged in the retaliatory tariffs the Canadian Government used in response to the U.S.A.'s quite un-justified taxing of Canadian steel and aluminium. Check Table 3 for consumer goods subjected to new tariffs. Tables 1 & 2 list steel and aluminium in their various raw forms ready for manufacture.
(Note that if you cross the border with, say, a Bic pen [9608.10.00] you bought in an American Wal*Mart, and don't pay the 10% surtax as given in Table 3, you are now a SMUGGLER!)
Now, raw materials for Southern manufacturers may have been tariffed by Trump, increasing the cost. And raw materials for our manufacturers may have been tariffed by Trudeau, increasing the cost.
Firearms do not have a fee listed in the Customs Tariff (Article 9898.00.00); so long as the understandably strict importation controls are met, you don't have to pay extra.
Nor are firearms dinged in the retaliatory tariffs the Canadian Government used in response to the U.S.A.'s quite un-justified taxing of Canadian steel and aluminium. Check Table 3 for consumer goods subjected to new tariffs. Tables 1 & 2 list steel and aluminium in their various raw forms ready for manufacture.
(Note that if you cross the border with, say, a Bic pen [9608.10.00] you bought in an American Wal*Mart, and don't pay the 10% surtax as given in Table 3, you are now a SMUGGLER!)
Now, raw materials for Southern manufacturers may have been tariffed by Trump, increasing the cost. And raw materials for our manufacturers may have been tariffed by Trudeau, increasing the cost.
Here you guys go, this isn't a new document either. And Sorry 7% on rifles, not 7.5, know this first hand with an order I just received a month or two back, so they are still going off of this Schedule.
So they're not new, and shouldn't have any impact on gun prices going up recently...? (which is what the OP asked about...)
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I can't speak for US manufacturers, but all Canadian firearms manufacturers are being hit with the tariff on steel and aluminum coming out of the USA.
As a result this does increase the cost of the firearm to a degree.
As a result this does increase the cost of the firearm to a degree.
Guns made in the U.S. fall under UST in the Customs Tariff and are duty free.
Handguns are classed under 9302.00.00.(last 2 digits are for more specific classification).
Rifles are classed under 9303.30 and shotguns are under 9303.20
Duty is not based on where goods are purchased, but on where they are manufactured.
Handguns are classed under 9302.00.00.(last 2 digits are for more specific classification).
Rifles are classed under 9303.30 and shotguns are under 9303.20
Duty is not based on where goods are purchased, but on where they are manufactured.
Who is applying them? Canada isn't. All the US Steel mills did was increase their domestic pricing. Cdn. Steel gets hit with a 20% duty which the American importer pays. All Trump did was raise the price of steel to American consumers 20%. He is quite the businessman.
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Can't be a very long list of gun manufacturers. I know of only one.
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I get a number of orders per year, never have paid those duties before, and with the last 2 now I have.......old document or not, why now? If it is a mandate to ensure that us Law Abiding folks are paying it will effect current prices.
And look at what the guys from ATRS are saying, I'd say it's somewhat new, very real and will have an overall impact on market prices.
Canada has not imposed any tariffs on US Steel. Any increase in firearm shipments from the US are not due to any tariff issue. If the price of steel in the US has increased it would be logical that it would find its way to the manufacturer thence to the retail market. Steel prices in the US would have increased because of Trumps tariffs on imported steel. US domestic steel producers I suspect have just increased their prices to take advantage of the tariff protection Trump has accorded them. Who gets screwed the US consumer. I have not heard of any complaints from US gun owners about any increase in pricing so I suspect any increases we have seen are due to other factors other than tariffs.
Our retail gun market is pretty small and there is not much competition in Canada at the retail level where profits on new gun sales are pretty small anyway both at the wholesale and retail level. Tariff increases due to Trumps trade war would be a canard in my view. I would look at the Canadian dollar value against the US dollar and Euro. I suspect it's fluctuations has more to do with our firearm pricing than any other factor. Our dollar is pretty much tied to the price of oil and interest rates relative to the US rates.
Sean Hanson is on this forum he might want to comment. He imports STI and Tanfoglio products.
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Bob
Our retail gun market is pretty small and there is not much competition in Canada at the retail level where profits on new gun sales are pretty small anyway both at the wholesale and retail level. Tariff increases due to Trumps trade war would be a canard in my view. I would look at the Canadian dollar value against the US dollar and Euro. I suspect it's fluctuations has more to do with our firearm pricing than any other factor. Our dollar is pretty much tied to the price of oil and interest rates relative to the US rates.
Sean Hanson is on this forum he might want to comment. He imports STI and Tanfoglio products.
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Bob
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The US has put a tariff on steel and aluminum leaving the US to Canada, therefore the importers of said steel and aluminum are paying a higher cost at the time of purchase to due the US government demanding their tariff, which is then passed along to manufacturers who use these materials for any purpose in Canada. This then raises the price of all things that are manufactured in Canada with either steel or aluminum with US sourced raw materials such as the firearms, oil field and aircraft parts we manufacture. Very few Canadian manufacturers of anything deal directly with the mills, most raw materials are sourced from companies that do deal directly due to the large volumes of product that must be purchased at a mill level.
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New as in about 3 months ago when the Turd pissed off the Donald.
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The new tariff is only on the raw materials, so far, so US made finished products are exempt. This was strictly a spite move by Trump when the Turd refused to budge on the dairy and egg marketing racket.
No it hasn't where do you get your information fro?. The Trump tariffs apply to steel imported into the US not their exports. It would make no sense to tax US domestic producers. Who do you think pays for Trumps tariffs? He makes it sound like the Chinese pay the tariffs on their products sold in to the US. It is the US importer and then the US consumer that pays the tariffs NOT the Chinese. The whole idea of tariffs is to make imported goods more expensive which in theory would make domestic products more competitive. Unfortunately what is theory and what actually happens is not always the same thing.
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