Do you mean "feel" lol
Is there any 416 Barett shooters here?
- Thread starter Sabotcommander
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Do you mean "feel" lol
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- Jameson, SK
I sure do.....
Do you mean "right"....???... or "correct"??
Lol!!!! Tee-hee.....sorry, couldn't resist.
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- Jameson, SK
There is a YouTube vid of .50BMG vs mule/whitetail..... The exit wound is absolutely massive....
Even if you put it right in the boiler room, I'm guessing the bruising of the meat would be very substantial. I had to give a ballistics lecture once, and the size of the temporary pocket/void created by a handgun round was 23x the size of the caliber. I can't imagine what it'd be with 14000ft-lbs of .50 passing through.
I understand Brian's point about distance. Do you hunker down on a hilltop and wait?? I'm not being a smart as$, I'm asking... Carrying a .50 all day would be onerous!!!
-J.
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I'm naught sure what you mean?
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- Jameson, SK
I'm knot either.....
backdoorsally
CGN Regular
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- South East Alberta
Haha nice one
Notice how gunnee does not own a 50bmg or a 416 barrett yet still is doing most of the posting. Even though most of the stuff he posts is incorrect anyways haha
I'm starting to think gunnee is a 12yr old kid with nothing better to do but troll forums
You just keep watching those videos on the Internet and informing guys who actually own and hunt with these rifles how it works
backdoorsally
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- South East Alberta
By this logic a .50BMG should do no more damage than a pointy stick 1/2" in diameter. After all, theres no difference in the size of the hole
Okay, but you did read the part where he said he has hunted with his 50 before rite? He has first hand experience.
What did the deer, elk, or moose look like that you shot with your 50cal?
backdoorsally
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- South East Alberta
That seems pretty cheap, makes my question the quality of components your using and the quality of your final product.
Big difference between plinking ammo and target shooting/hunting ammo
Using all high quality components I think it costs me more then that to reload for my 308
But hey maybe you have a way of getting things that we can't.
Mystic Precision
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- Summerland, BC
For those playing along at home, here are some numbers for components based on what is possible to get in quality stuff.... based on todays exchange rates, etc.... yes, I can offer all of the components.
338:
Bullets: 60cents to $1.05
Brass: $2.60 to $3.80
Powder: commercial cannister powder..... refer to load manual for ball park load weights
primers: LR magnum 5 cents.
Reloading tools: can use alot of conventional stuff. Dies can be pricey but coming down in price as popularity picks up.
50BMG-
Bullets: $2.20 to $3.50 each - there are a number of options suitable for hunting as well. Not military pull down or ball type projo's
Brass: $3 to 7.35 each... brand new, not military pull down.
Primers: 45cents each - CanadaAmmo.
Powder: ALOT - if you can find surplus pull down, it can be far less money but availability is not reliable. If you have to go to cannister powder, $$$
Reloading tools: oversized and specific to the BMG... Due to volume sold, some of the stuff is actually less money then the 338LM.
For bullets, the 375, 416 have readily available options. 408 is pretty much boutique and may not be easy to source.
408 and 375 Chey Tac brass are possible but bring $$$$
416 Rigby cases are possible and less money but still $$$
If you want a boomer, have a look at the 375-416 Rigby. Components aren't too expensive either
YMMV.
Jerry
338:
Bullets: 60cents to $1.05
Brass: $2.60 to $3.80
Powder: commercial cannister powder..... refer to load manual for ball park load weights
primers: LR magnum 5 cents.
Reloading tools: can use alot of conventional stuff. Dies can be pricey but coming down in price as popularity picks up.
50BMG-
Bullets: $2.20 to $3.50 each - there are a number of options suitable for hunting as well. Not military pull down or ball type projo's
Brass: $3 to 7.35 each... brand new, not military pull down.
Primers: 45cents each - CanadaAmmo.
Powder: ALOT - if you can find surplus pull down, it can be far less money but availability is not reliable. If you have to go to cannister powder, $$$
Reloading tools: oversized and specific to the BMG... Due to volume sold, some of the stuff is actually less money then the 338LM.
For bullets, the 375, 416 have readily available options. 408 is pretty much boutique and may not be easy to source.
408 and 375 Chey Tac brass are possible but bring $$$$
416 Rigby cases are possible and less money but still $$$
If you want a boomer, have a look at the 375-416 Rigby. Components aren't too expensive either
YMMV.
Jerry
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- Jameson, SK
Yes, I'm a 12yo kid on my Dad's work laptop trolling long range precision shooting forums.... I'm asking for a supersoaker in .416 for my 13th birthday. With my paper route all I can afford is my pansy-ass .338LM. In my town only the doctor's kids get .416's or .50's.....
As for "informing you", that's fine, don't listen. There's no possible way I could know what I'm talking about when it comes to bullet wounds and broken things..... I'll just go back to World of Warcraft, where Chuck Norris allows me to live.
Happy thanksgiving. Good luck in your next spelling bee. Hope your math is better than your use of English. Math is what I use to extrapolate my fairly decent knowledge of ballistics and costing to make the statements I do. Some of us don't need to live everything to understand it.
If anyone has any reasonable questions, or things to say, lemme know.
I have a reasonable question: when you guys are working out cost, how many reloads to you anticipate getting from your brass?? Do you include consumables only, or somehow factor in your expensive equipment (annealer, tumbler, gauges, etc)???
-J.
- Location
- Jameson, SK
Oh look, Jerry uses math too.
You may not know me from a hole in the ground, and I'm good with that, but we all know who Jerry is, and it'd seem he and I are thinking similar things.
Since you've insinuated I'm 12, let me respond as if I was:
"Tell Jerry he's wrong. I dare you"
-J.
ps - is it "was" or "were"??? Can someone correct me??
You may not know me from a hole in the ground, and I'm good with that, but we all know who Jerry is, and it'd seem he and I are thinking similar things.
Since you've insinuated I'm 12, let me respond as if I was:
"Tell Jerry he's wrong. I dare you"
-J.
ps - is it "was" or "were"??? Can someone correct me??
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I get min of 10 loading per brass and anneal often.
500 pieces of 1f brass at 1$ each 500$
5000 bullets at .85 4250$
500 000 grains of powder = 2400$
5000 primers 300$
Guneegoogoo...please do the math..
I heard you know how to use it and I am just guessing I'm under 1.50
500 pieces of 1f brass at 1$ each 500$
5000 bullets at .85 4250$
500 000 grains of powder = 2400$
5000 primers 300$
Guneegoogoo...please do the math..
I heard you know how to use it and I am just guessing I'm under 1.50
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Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Summerland, BC
Are these items and prices you can replicate today? Nothing smuggled or your friend somewhere can do something.
Are these true match components or surplus pull down?
THAT is the question... Unobtanium or once in a lifetime deals don't work. Gas used to be 25cents a litre...
Jerry
backdoorsally
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- South East Alberta
Getting back to the main point, rather then just going out of your way to try and insult people and argue with them. The original post being........ The OP asking for people who have experience with the 416 Barrett
Gunnee,
Do you or have you ever owned a 416 Barrett or a 50bmg?
Do you or have you ever bought reloading components or equipment for a 416 Barrett or a 50bmg?
Do you or have you ever hunted with a 416 Barrett or a 50bmg
If you can't say yes to any of the above three questions then exactly where are you getting your vast wealth of knowledge about hunting, reloading or shooting the 416 Barrett or 50bmg?
YouTube and Google?
Thanks though gunnee for informing me on everything 416 Barrett or 50bmg. I've only owned 5 of them and been shooting/reloading for 7 years now............
By my calculation not counting reusing the brass that's about $4.58 per round for the 338 lapua. Now I have never had to pay the prices that jerry is advertising so for the 50bmg I used the low end of his numbers and got about $6.60 a round. I did try and figure in gun powder for both.
According to my math $6.60 is not way way way more then $4.58. That being said I have never had to pay $6.60 for quality 50bmg components, close though but more like $5.50 - $6.00. Plinking ammo with junk components and 10 reloads on brass I am more around $2.50 maybe less depending on how many reloads with annealing you can get a lot more than 10
Also bullets for 416 Barrett are cheaper, the brass is the same price, the primers are the same and you use less powder. So that puts the 416 even closer in price to the 338
I'm thinking if a guy can afford to buy a 416 Barrett he can afford the ammo so I really don't know how relevant the cost to shoot the rifle is anyways?
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- Jameson, SK
backdoorsally
CGN Regular
- Location
- South East Alberta
Well, never say never but I'm having a really hard time believing you.
Also like I mention once before, big difference between plinking ammo and target/hunting ammo.
Once fired brass, sounds more like you are making plinking ammo
I can also get really good once fired 50bmg brass head stamped IVI MATCH for $1.50 a case or regular IVI for $1.00 but I certainly don't use those numbers when calculating the cost of making good target/hunting ammo
backdoorsally
CGN Regular
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- South East Alberta
Looks like I'm not the only one questioning this........ But hey I'm not gonna say it's impossible.
