Is This What You Would Call A No. 4?
- Thread starter Chizzy
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Rifleman1911
CGN Regular
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- Leduc county AB
YUP. That is one fine chunk of 20th century history. I have more SMLE's and No4. Mk1*s than I have all other types of rifles.
In my opinion, they are the most well made rifles I have ever handled. Including the new style hunting rifles, they might shoot a little better, but never made as well. I have taken many four legged critters with rifles in .303 and will continue to do so for a very long time.
My father wonders why I have a love affair with rifles in .303, but he just does not understand the value I have for these rifles.
The No.4. Mk1* Is still in use today in the Canadian Rangers, until they are able to find a replacement rifle that is able to replace it. They are still looking..............
Find some .303 and enjoy your beautiful rifle.
In my opinion, they are the most well made rifles I have ever handled. Including the new style hunting rifles, they might shoot a little better, but never made as well. I have taken many four legged critters with rifles in .303 and will continue to do so for a very long time.
My father wonders why I have a love affair with rifles in .303, but he just does not understand the value I have for these rifles.
The No.4. Mk1* Is still in use today in the Canadian Rangers, until they are able to find a replacement rifle that is able to replace it. They are still looking..............
Find some .303 and enjoy your beautiful rifle.
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These days a lot of people are quite disdainful of MILSURP rifles and their cartridges for hunting, having fallen victim to all of the marketing hype about this or that rifle and the latest whatchamacallit magnum cartridge. There was a huge amount of R&D devoted to perfecting these rifles and their ctgs over 100 yrs ago. Rifles like the various Mausers, Lee-Enfield, M1903 Springfield, and Mosin Nagant have stood the test of time under the harshest possible conditions and have proven themselves to be reliable and effective killers.
I remember hunting with a couple of guys who were shooting custom 7mm STW rifles shooting 140gr Nosler BT bullets at a MV of 3500fps using 75gr of powder. I was using a 7x57 Mauser shooting the same bullet at a more sedate 2800fps using only 50 gr of powder and they were pretty amazed that my deer fell over as quickly as theirs, and with a lot less meat damage. You really don't need to look much farther than some of the well proven MILSURP rounds like the 6.5 Swede, 7x57, .308 Win, .30-06, .303 or 8x57 for a good hunting round. I guess that's what led a lot of our dads and grandpas to go ahead and sporterize them in the first place.
I remember hunting with a couple of guys who were shooting custom 7mm STW rifles shooting 140gr Nosler BT bullets at a MV of 3500fps using 75gr of powder. I was using a 7x57 Mauser shooting the same bullet at a more sedate 2800fps using only 50 gr of powder and they were pretty amazed that my deer fell over as quickly as theirs, and with a lot less meat damage. You really don't need to look much farther than some of the well proven MILSURP rounds like the 6.5 Swede, 7x57, .308 Win, .30-06, .303 or 8x57 for a good hunting round. I guess that's what led a lot of our dads and grandpas to go ahead and sporterize them in the first place.
It doesn't matter which end you start with, as long as the base of the bullets are inserted thusly: _ - _ - _ or DUDUD. (Down, up, down, up, down)
In other words, the heads of the cartridge must be staggered in the charger clip, and in that order, to feed properly.
Here's a picture- look closely and you can see how the bullet tips are staggered in the charger. The one on the left is correctly charged, the right one is wrong.
My project is finally finished! It took a little longer than I originally anticipated. May I present my de-sporterized Lee Enfield No4 MkI*
Regards,
Chizzy
Job well done!!! Enjoy her.
Our Rangers in the Arctic still use these. They came down to an ORA Service Rifle shoot one weekend last year. It was great seeing some of these old girls still in use. 500 yards with iron sights!!!
I have a new Aussie Enfield No4 in 308. VERY nice. One day I might get an original...
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And the results you have all been waiting for.................................................................................
I shot these at 100 yards this afternoon at EOSC on my gun's maiden voyage (for me) using Winchester 180 grain Power-Points. (Hopefully, I can come up with a better formula on my reloading bench). Now in the interests of full disclosure, the targets I was aiming at were to the right of the one's pictured, I need to figure out how to adjust windage on this gun. The first target shot was low (and left) when set with the 200 yard setting when I dotted the "i". The next target I used the 400 yard setting and put the sight at my intended point of impact. Clearly I have some work and experimentation to do. I am just happy the gun went "bang", I still have all my guitar fingers and my "pretty" face is still intact!
I have come to the conclusion that iron sights at 100 yards are a little more challenging that a big piece of glass with fine cross hairs!
I am looking forward to my next range session with some home loaded ammo and a drifted front sight. Thank you to everyone for all of the help and assistance!!!!
Regards,
Chizzy
And the results you have all been waiting for.................................................................................
I shot these at 100 yards this afternoon at EOSC on my gun's maiden voyage (for me) using Winchester 180 grain Power-Points. (Hopefully, I can come up with a better formula on my reloading bench). Now in the interests of full disclosure, the targets I was aiming at were to the right of the one's pictured, I need to figure out how to adjust windage on this gun. The first target shot was low (and left) when set with the 200 yard setting when I dotted the "i". The next target I used the 400 yard setting and put the sight at my intended point of impact. Clearly I have some work and experimentation to do. I am just happy the gun went "bang", I still have all my guitar fingers and my "pretty" face is still intact!
I have come to the conclusion that iron sights at 100 yards are a little more challenging that a big piece of glass with fine cross hairs!
I am looking forward to my next range session with some home loaded ammo and a drifted front sight. Thank you to everyone for all of the help and assistance!!!!
Regards,
Chizzy
This is what you need for a sling- Savage marked, 1942 but curiously, also has a Canadian Broad arrow? I found this one for a 1942 Savage I'm desporterizing too, and snapped it up as soon as I saw the stampings on it. I've seen ones with Savahe mut not Canadian too, an oddity.
