Is TT-33 a copy of Colt 1911? Nope

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I always had reservation and dreams re: Colt 1911. Finally bought Norinco A1C 1911, just to see if I like the platform
Sig 226 is still my favorite. But 1911 is classic and very nice too. No money for the real one yet.
Anyhow, many people say TT-33 is a copy with mods of 1911.
This is so wrong IMHO. Some principals, yes, but not a copy, for sure.
Following this ""copy"" logic, most firearms are a copy of each other.
Anyhow, I was always thinking of doing head to head comparison video.
Hopefully, some of you find it useful.

 
some constructive decisions are similar, but my favorite dissimilarity is removable hummer group in TT
 
I've always looked at it as "inspired by" Browning's design. In that manner, yes, most firearms are derivatives of other designs. They say imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.
 
"inspired by" Browning's design I would agree.
As for the video .I never watch the ones where she has to wear rubber gloves to handle a firearm.
 
The TT-33 may be based on the 1911 or more likely the earlier Model 1903 which was designed for a similar cartridge. It uses the same toggle link design and barrel bushing. The bushing barrel lock mechanism is very similar except full round rather than half round. Yes there are some major differences due to the cartridge used and to simplify manufacture but it is still very strongly related to the early Browning designs.
 
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PECHENEG said:
this is latex gloves.
don't want to show tattoos :)
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Was not meant as a personal shot.
Hearing it was your own video I watched it.
Then went to check out your other ones :)

I just see other people who claim to be fire arms enthusiast but can't touch them with out gloves.
 
grinder08 said:
The TT-33 may be based on the 1911 or more likely the earlier Model 1903 which was designed for a similar cartridge. It uses the same toggle link design and barrel bushing. The bushing barrel lock mechanism is very similar except full round rather than half round. Yes there are some major differences due to the cartridge used and to simplify manufacture but it is still very strongly related to the early Browning designs.
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While there are some things in common with the 1903, the TT-33 is still an innovative design when you look at the power of the round and the fire control group module.
 
The TT-33 is somewhat based on the Browning 1903. The overall design is not sufficient for the 7.62x25. Commonly blowing firing pins and firing pin retainer pins. The Czechs CZ 52 is a beast of a pistol and was a proper design for the 7.62x25. The TT-33 uses the the Browning linkage barrel and locking lugs design. The Chinese TT and Yugo TT in 9mm is a better gun and have a significant longer service life. The 1903 base design after all is meant for a smaller .380 cartridge and not a hot SMG cartridge like the 7.62x25.
 
Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
The TT-33 is somewhat based on the Browning 1903. The overall design is not sufficient for the 7.62x25. Commonly blowing firing pins and firing pin retainer pins. The Czechs CZ 52 is a beast of a pistol and was a proper design for the 7.62x25. The TT-33 uses the the Browning linkage barrel and locking lugs design. The Chinese TT and Yugo TT in 9mm is a better gun and have a significant longer service life. The 1903 base design after all is meant for a smaller .380 cartridge and not a hot SMG cartridge like the 7.62x25.
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I'm not sure I agree, just because it shares a similar action design doesn't necessarily mean it won't handle a hotter round in a purpose built action. I mean, the SKS and the PTRS share a similar action...
 
The TT-33 slightly resembles the FN Model 1903 in external appearance, but doesn't have anything else in common. The FN 1903 is a straight blowback pistol, like its counterpart the Colt 1903 Hammerless.
 
Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
The TT-33 is somewhat based on the Browning 1903. The overall design is not sufficient for the 7.62x25. Commonly blowing firing pins and firing pin retainer pins.
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I have to disagree on your assessment of the 7.62x25 round being the source of the TT-33 firing pin & retainer breakage. The cause of the firing pin failure is because the FP "swipes" the primer. CGN'er Red_Bailey did a very interesting comparison of the early vs later TT hammers and narrows down that cause in a very thorough manner. Check it out here:
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...4-Tokarev-strange-primer-strikes-and-solution
 
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