Ishapore FNs : 12(3) or 12(5)?

Ar180shooter said:
You mean had the fun switch taken away after...
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No it had the fun switch in it and I shot it like that.... was lots and lots of fun...

He was given it to use at the end of the Korean war since they wanted to field test the rifle thats how he was issused it and when he retired after he requested his rifle which they didn't want to give it to him since it was brand new and he was the only one to use it. He requested his rifle for 6 months they said they would give him one off the back of a truck (just any old one) and he said No I want my rifle not any other. They said no paper work he said no I don't care if there is paper work I want my rifle.. It has been deactiavted and stuck on display so it was basicly destroyed in the end.

He explained to me how the 12.3 (converted Fns were junk) His had a heavy machine gun barrel and was made to be full auto with a slector were the semi auto version was converted after and was often full auto only were his was just a switch and a proper slector he took it apart and showed me the diffrence and why it was a propper firearm. His neighbor was issused a sten gun in WW2 and his father used to make them in the basment for the war effort so he said with some basic tools and pumbing parts you can make it so really they can never take firearms away because you can just make it the only problem is making a rifled barrel. I was taught why full auto was effective the draw backs to it how to do supresion fire and how it works. Its basicly full auto ok bob run ahead I'll spray them. You hit nothing with it on full auto it just goes straight up basicly. The Tompson sub machine gun is allot easier to shoot in full auto and the best way to do it is hold it from the hip and pull the trigger and let go so it spits a few rounds out comes back down then do it again. Let me put it this way with the tompson I shot 30 rounds in full auto and hit 0/30 target cans. The second time I hit 2. I put it on semi auto and I hit 30/30 at age 4. The fn was best used in semi auto but I got to shoot 1 magaizne out of it before you couldnt shoot it anymore.
 
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I bought mine in 1991 after a Summer of fun with FNC1s... I had fun with her at the shooting range! She is an Isaphore in very good condition and I was able to find a rear FNC1 sight. I was really disapointed when we received the letter about their interdiction for the range. I bought a M305 after, as I had some ammo to shot but it's not the same thing...

Merry Holidays to everyone and thanks for your answers!
 
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Mine's a 12(5). It was listed as restricted back until just after C-68 kicked everyone in the arse, but it wasn't long before I received an updated registration certificate - bastards!
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May I quote Alan Rock? "These laws will not in any way inconvenience law abiding gun owners."

I hope someone punched him in the face for Christmas!

(Before some Liberal troll gets his or her bright red panties in a knot, the mag has been pinned to five rounds.)
 
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dorm said:
Mine's a 12(5). It was listed as restricted back until just after C-68 kicked everyone in the arse, but it wasn't long before I received an updated registration certificate - bastards!
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May I quote Alan Rock? "These laws will not in any way inconvenience law abiding gun owners."

I hope someone punched him in the face for Christmas!

(Before some Liberal troll gets his or her bright red panties in a knot, the mag has been pinned to five rounds.)
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Ahhh yes....Alan Rock..the largest collective civil rights violator in recent Canadian history.:mad:
 
My Ishapore with FNC1 rear sight and some 64 Pattern items...

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She's a little bit harder to disassembly than an FNC1... ;) I did it in, blindfolded, with reassembly, in 38 seconds... ;)
 
I think it's the worst webbing CF ever know... ;) I know, I switch the mess kit pouch and the bayonet... I wanted to do it too quick. I had to get the webbing out of the box... ;) I found my 51 and my 82 near...
 
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haha49 said:
No it had the fun switch in it and I shot it like that.... was lots and lots of fun...

He was given it to use at the end of the Korean war since they wanted to field test the rifle thats how he was issused it and when he retired after he requested his rifle which they didn't want to give it to him since it was brand new and he was the only one to use it. He requested his rifle for 6 months they said they would give him one off the back of a truck (just any old one) and he said No I want my rifle not any other. They said no paper work he said no I don't care if there is paper work I want my rifle.. It has been deactiavted and stuck on display so it was basicly destroyed in the end.

He explained to me how the 12.3 (converted Fns were junk) His had a heavy machine gun barrel and was made to be full auto with a slector were the semi auto version was converted after and was often full auto only were his was just a switch and a proper slector he took it apart and showed me the diffrence and why it was a propper firearm. His neighbor was issused a sten gun in WW2 and his father used to make them in the basment for the war effort so he said with some basic tools and pumbing parts you can make it so really they can never take firearms away because you can just make it the only problem is making a rifled barrel. I was taught why full auto was effective the draw backs to it how to do supresion fire and how it works. Its basicly full auto ok bob run ahead I'll spray them. You hit nothing with it on full auto it just goes straight up basicly. The Tompson sub machine gun is allot easier to shoot in full auto and the best way to do it is hold it from the hip and pull the trigger and let go so it spits a few rounds out comes back down then do it again. Let me put it this way with the tompson I shot 30 rounds in full auto and hit 0/30 target cans. The second time I hit 2. I put it on semi auto and I hit 30/30 at age 4. The fn was best used in semi auto but I got to shoot 1 magaizne out of it before you couldnt shoot it anymore.
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You seem to not understand something... 12.3 is converted auto, meaning it was full auto at one point, but then was converted to a semi-automatic only configuration. If it is currently full auto, it falls in to the 12.2 category, regardless if it was manufactured as a semi-auto or a full auto.
 
Alright, I understand this classification business, but. How long has the L1A1 or the semi auto only been out of service now? Isn't it really a surplus item anyways? Where did they all go? Hope not to the melter! :(
 
I would assume that they were destroyed. At one time some OPP FNs that were Canadian C1s were disposed of by being sold to a company in England. Much to the OPP's surprise they were sold back to an importer in Canada then to civilian hands. That did not go over well. They can be identified by an OPP stamping on the receiver, I remember seeing one at a gun show years ago.
 
I had a new one of the 8L C1's that came back into Canada beautiful gun. I sold it to a collector that paid me a crazy price even back then. In the FRT file they don't list any full-auto 1A1's.
Any of the ones I have owned were all 12-5.
 
When did the FAL go from non-R to R?
I forget when I got mine, but it was R ay that point.
Probably around 1988 or so.
Fall of 1983. I registered my originally FA (Full Auto) Belgium FN FAL (Portugese Contract) as a restricted weapon a few months before the new regulations came into effect.

In 1992 I re-registered it as a CA (converted auto) a few months before the October 2nd, 1992 deadline.
 
I have had FN FALs and L1 A1s, the only 12-3 I have run across were Israeli FN FALs.
There arn't many Verifiers that could tell you the difference between CA and a Semi-Auto FN. I am a Verifier because there isn't anyone around here that could verify military firearms. I tried to get guns verified when the system was up and running, and I got frustrated with some of the Verifiers they would send people over to my house to identify firearms. So I became one.
 
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i still have a C1 A1 sitting in my safe i use to have a consecutive pair of C1a1s back in the day ...all Ex opp i had a minty 1956 C1 never upgraded to A1 it was a DCRA rifle ...it had the little wood carry handle and slotted forestocks AND a 1 piece firing pin ...
 
pedja said:
Hope laws will change one day.

When people say :- We live in a free country.
i'll tell them:- I dont think so.
if they say :- Why not?
i'll tell them :- Cause automatic weapons are prohibited and many semi autos are phohibited also.

RIP automatics weapons.......
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Free country himmmmm!!!

I visited and for a short time I lived in one of those where people can do anyhting and buy anything no respect for the law refuse and rejected any attempt by the government to legislate and where people have little if any human rights. You wouldnt want to live there because people are killing each other on the streets gangs have more power than the police but the people are free to do anything they feel like provided they have the cash.

Believe me that is no place to live and have a family.

You dont know what you are wishing for....
 
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