Isoceles/modifed isoceles

[TheCanuck]

Can anyone demonstrate with pictures what these stances looks like?

I think isoceles is elbows straight and locked and pistol in the middle, kind of inline with your nose line i guess.

What about modified? I'd like to improve my technique. I dont think i'm holding the handgun properly.

 

[SLANTO]

Maybe it was the modified weaver? that you were thinking of. I would stand in a way that aligns you to the target naturally. Bring the weapon up to your line of sight with your eyes closed and check to see where your sights are aligned to. Shift your postion around until this test puts the sights of the weapon naturally on target and practice this position (bringing the pistol to your line of sight) until it is comfortable and instinctual. I find that once you get your positioning right(by not thinking about it but getting it to feelright) you can concentrate on sight alignment and trigger control. Also be sure not to grip the pistol in line with your hand-arm-eye and not too tightly, wrapping the support hand around it. Practice these things dry for a while and it should improve alot...... Trigger control or lack of it can almost render even the best position/stance useless.

 

[Slavex]

modified (or modern) isosceles allows for you to have your strong side foot back a little bit (for most people, although some shoot better with the weak side foot back a bit) in a stagger, nowhere near as far back as Weaver. I've never seen isosceles taught with locked elbows, but maybe it was at one time. Pretty much all the current top shooters in the world use modified isosceles. There are some using Weaver, but most don't anymore. You still face the target squared on in M.I. not bladed like in Weaver. and you are pushing the gun out there with both arms, not push/pull like Weaver people teach.

 

[TheCanuck]

Ok, here's my position

I would old tight with my right hand, and pull back with my left hand

 

[Freedom Ventures]

Ok, here's my position

I would old tight with my right hand, and pull back with my left hand

That's Weaver. Nothing really wrong about it for static shooting, but not the preferred method for action shooting.

 

[Madness]

 

[Rapt]

Just to jump in here... If you lock out the elbows you are abusing your body and sooner or later it will start to complain.

Keep the elbows slightly flexed to absorb the shock loading... Many thousands of rounds will damage tendons/ligaments if you're locked up.

One of the advantages of the M.I. is that it is "balanced" left to right so you can swing either direction equally well. This is important in fast action shooting.

Some good print resources are:

Matt Burkett's book "The Practical Shooting manual"... It has detailed step by step stuff for posture etc that are helpful for the beginner, and don't encourage bad habits. He laso discusses the level of committment that is required to be a top action shooter in the US. Planning, budgets, training... Its all there.

And for approaching the mental aspects of good action shooting, go to Brian Enos' book "Practical Shooting, Beyond Fundamentals".

Or more physically, take a course from one of the top shooters. Try a GM who offers one, you'll learn more in one day than you can reasonably assimilate.