Israeli Mausers? Educate Me Please!

My brother-in-law bought one of the Israeli Mausers when they were first surplused, probably 30+ years ago. It is a war-time production German gun. Obviously fully arsenal reburbished when the barrel was installed. Like new. While still readable all the Waffenampts have been struck out with a very vigorous chisel mark.
 
I love my Israeli Mauser in 7.62 NATO. Built on a 1944 action, can no longer see maker mark... some Waa marks left on it too. Not sure why the RC are going for 1.5 - 2X the Israeli Mausers? The Isaelis are much better shape generally and they're both refurb rifles anyhow. Plus being able to shoot readily available .308 is just plain awesome!
 
I have an Israeli K98 Mauser and a Spanish FR-8 both in 7.62 Nato and in excellent condition, and I prefer them to my 8 mm Mausers. If you want to go with Chiliean Mauser, P&S Guns and Militaria as some.
 
The post war conversions are more interesting to me than an arsenal grade wartime rifle.

The 7.62 cartridge is cheap to shoot. The Spanish FR7 and FR8 have the best back sights of any Mauser - hands down. They are short and handy. I researched and chose to ignore all the internet blather about Spanish cartridges and small ring Mausers. Simply not trustworthy debates IMHO.

The Israeli rifles have circulated for probably three decades. They were the first big wave of modern cartridge Mausers, but every one I've seen has the wear and tear of a thousand recruits' handling and learning.

I considered but declined on the Chilean conversions, for two reasons. I don't like straight bolt handles, and I don't like the straight, no pistol grip swell style stocks. Other than these minor objections, they are extremely good rifles.

The Norwegians, Brazilians and Colombians (or Dominicans?) made Mausers in 30-06. No objections there either. If the rifle has a rear sight closer to your eyeball than in front of the breech ring, buy it!
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
The post war conversions are more interesting to me than an arsenal grade wartime rifle.

The 7.62 cartridge is cheap to shoot. The Spanish FR7 and FR8 have the best back sights of any Mauser - hands down. They are short and handy. I researched and chose to ignore all the internet blather about Spanish cartridges and small ring Mausers. Simply not trustworthy debates IMHO.

The Israeli rifles have circulated for probably three decades. They were the first big wave of modern cartridge Mausers, but every one I've seen has the wear and tear of a thousand recruits' handling and learning.

I considered but declined on the Chilean conversions, for two reasons. I don't like straight bolt handles, and I don't like the straight, no pistol grip swell style stocks. Other than these minor objections, they are extremely good rifles.

The Norwegians, Brazilians and Colombians (or Dominicans?) made Mausers in 30-06. No objections there either. If the rifle has a rear sight closer to your eyeball than in front of the breech ring, buy it!
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I have a Brazilian Mauser in .308 with a flash hider and what appears to be an HK rear sight...not a lot of information on them...I've never shot it but the sight setup should lend itself to accuracy...if the gun itself is any good
 
Man, I remember 5 months ago or so there were about 5 of them all over the EE but I always passed them over assuming they were in 8mm.
Even one for sale in my area on a local gun exchange but it sold the day i contacted the guy.
I can't find one for the life of me now :(
Does anyone know of any dealers who happen to have one on a wall somewhere that isn't advertised using good old Google?
Really would like to get my hands on one.
 
I recently picked up mine for $450 and it's in excellent shape.

chamber rat said:
Would any one know what make of scope (s) and power(s) would be used in a Israeli sniper configuration 98k in 7.62x51? If they were infact used?
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I mounted a Zeiss Zielvier (ZF39) and short side rail on mine. Not sure if its correct for what the Isrealis intended but it sure looks great!

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That's the beauty of these conversions, they are a great rifle and you're not destroying an original matching rifle if you want to modify them.

Write up on the installation here:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...ser-SSR-or-Short-Side-Rail-Sniper-Rifle-build
 
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gordonlbyrne said:
chilean contract mauser, styer 98 action, 308, p&s guns and militira , dollars395
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Have read conflicting data on the Chilean ones.
Apparently it's a soldered sleeve insert into the chamber to convert it to 7.62mm
A lot of conflicting internet info ( I know it's usually mostly uninformed horse s**t ) saying they are not suitable for modern .308 Win ammunition and that they can have serious flaws in the chambers ie you never know if you are going to get one that can even shoot or at worst may blow the receiver etc
Can anyone speak to this? Other than that they look pretty damn sweet!
Minty ones up for under $400 on P&S.
 
jonh172 said:
I recently picked up mine for $450 and it's in excellent shape.



I mounted a Zeiss Zielvier (ZF39) and short side rail on mine. Not sure if its correct for what the Isrealis intended but it sure looks great!

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That's the beauty of these conversions, they are a great rifle and you're not destroying an original matching rifle if you want to modify them.

Write up on the installation here:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...ser-SSR-or-Short-Side-Rail-Sniper-Rifle-build
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ha: :HFU:
 
I picked mine up for cheap. It was in a PH m82 stock. Sold that stock and bought all of my restore parts (sight hood, safety, magazine/bottom metal, cleaning rod, correct Israeli stock) . Ended up costing me a couple hundred bucks give or take, and it's pretty authentic. Czech made dou 44, peened eagles, Star of David and some Hebrew character I don't understand. The outside is a little rough, bluing loss, some pitting, stock is pretty chewed (had to fill some large cracks and chinks with amber epoxy after stripping and cleaning, then epoxy bedding and refinish). The bore is absolutely perfect, and she SHOOTS with 168gr HPBT with h322

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Exercise usual caution of course...there are some Israeli Mausers that are stinkers..(I am pretty sure that the arms brokers were not above selling some crap to the desperate Israeli's) .. One I had had significant lug setback and was sold as a 'wallhanger' the other was ok but certainly showed use.
 
I have had several including one in .22 cal. with a Remington barrel. My current 7.62 K98 is a very good shooter but needs a much higher front sight to shoot anything closer than 300 metres. All had original wood and winter trigger guards. I'm keeping this one and always looking for more. I wish I had kept the trainer but had to sell it to buy another Enfield. There never seem to be enough money for the guns available.
 
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