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Sorry if this has been talked about before, I've searched the threads but can't find the answer to: what handgun would the Israeli military have been using when they were issued with their 7.62 K98's.
 
I think there were issued whatever they could get their hands on. They didn't pick the K98 by choice, it was simply the only rifle they could buy in large quantity. I remember reading an article in guns and ammo (?), that said that the IDF didn't have a standard pistol for a long time, and were using a mix of surplus acquired on the world market and captured pistols - Webleys, Enfields, Browning Hi-power, etc... Also, by the time they got to rebarrel their K98 to 7.62, thay had already transitionned into the FN FAL, so the K98 in 7.62 didn't see a lot of service.
 
kevwat said:
Sorry if this has been talked about before, I've searched the threads but can't find the answer to: what handgun would the Israeli military have been using when they were issued with their 7.62 K98's.
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Sorry, this is not an answer for you; however, your question reminded me of an interesting documentary I watched a while ago on YouTube "Tales of the Gun - Guns of Israel". You may enjoy watching it. Here's the link to the first part --- all other parts are on YouTube:

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Israeli handgun techniques, of having empty chamber, draw/#### as part of it's rapid engagement...is a DIRECT result of the fact in the early years they had all sorts of random handguns in the early years. Too different in safeties, so they settled on a simple "empty chamber, #### while drawing" policy. Seems to work well enough.

I'm sure that IDF hostage rescue teams have their handgun chambers full though...
 
The k98's were converted to 308 as back up for the fn fals that were put into service. They needed to have all of the military issue guns in the same calibre.
 
Israel adopted the M1951 Beretta in the 1950s and also purchased Webley MkIV .38" revolvers. General Moishe Dayan was carrying a No2 Enfield as late as 1967.
 
I think in the 1970's and 80's IDF commando units were often using Browning HiPowers, and today seem to use Glocks an awful lot. Older Berettas were popular in the day too.
 
GREEN has it, of course.

Beretta Brigadier, also called the 951, was adopted by Egypt and Israel BOTH in the early 1950s. It is a Tullio Marengoni design, of course, open slide, based very strongly on the Walther P-38. Think of a P-38 with the slide chopped in half and extended almost to the muzzle, front sight on the slide, the 2 silly little recoil springs chucked and a big single recoil spring substituted. Single-stack mag, 8+1 rounds, standard 9mmP. All-steel construction, too. Not sure, but it could still be in production in Egypt, where it is called the HELWAN pistol or the HELWAN BRIGADIER.

Later, Beretta modified the thing to a double-stack mag and made the frame out of aluminum and called it the 92. You might have heard of it. It's STILL a Walther P-38 in disguise.
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