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I'm interested in hearing what any current actual owners/shooters of these Glock-like dedicated .22lr pistols have to say about them?

Fit/function?
Ammo preference?
General comments?

Did a search on this page for similar threads but most stuff is dated.

I've looked at Youtube already as well for reviews.

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I'm picking one up today, will post when I get back from the range. From what I've read, they like hot ammo. I had a tanfoglio .22 pistol that was the same.
Also more recent models might be more reliable with extraction issues.
I have some cci minimags, some Blazer and some federal bulk box. Hoping this will be a good gun for my kids.
 
I bought one for my daughter because it fit her the best. The pink with silver slide. I did so knowing the possible problems. I did have problems. From ftf, fte and jamming. Most were easy to fix with polishing the feed ramp and chamber. The fte took time to fix. I compared my Norinco m93 to my m22 and found that the ejection hook was very small and not hooking the rim properly compared to the 93. After disassembly ( be patient) and filing the hook down a bit that gave it enough room to catch the rim and eject. If you have this problem check that before butchering you gun with YouTube fixes. Feel free to contact me if you need to. Despite all of this I like the pistol and when it runs, it runs good it is a lot of fun.
 
Ok, just got back from the range.
This is a nice gun if it was reliable, I want to like it. Had a few ftf's, but a lot of fte's.
It did well with Blaser, mini mags and federal bulk were about equal for fte.
Also the Glock style trigger was a long stretch for my daughter, who can shoot my m93 no problem.
I don't regret buying it, but it will need some work.
 
Thanks for the replies....

I picked up a used on on the weekend out of the local shop. It had just come in on consignment. I bought it as I'm already a Glock shooter & it seemed interesting. Plus it's like new, came with original box & 3 spare mags. :cool:

My transfer notice approval just came thru in email today. So, will be able to pick it up in a couple days.

Might score some CCI Mini Mags to use with when I shoot it. I've read that this pistol seems to prefer them. I've got a few other brands in hi-vel to try out, too.

I'll post a range report when I get it & get it out to the range.

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Update...
I tried to cycle mine with live rounds but the extracter wasn't holding them against the bolt face properly.
I took the extracter out and ground a little off the back end rather than inside the slide as in some videos. It's working better now just cycling by hand. I will report further after a range trip.
 
Ok, so the gun still sucked after my extractor claw fix. Then I realised it was'nt cocking the hammer properly, even with mini mags.
I picked up a box of CCI Stingers today and it ran like a champ. So it is'nt a mechanincal extraction issue so much as an insufficient recoil issue. I might try to get another recoil spring that I can cut a couple of coils off, too chicken to do it to the only one I have.
It's a nice gun to shoot when it works, but it's pretty bad that these guns are manufactured and sold when they work this poorly.
I like to tinker and make stuff work, but this gun would be a huge dissapointment for most people. I had advertised my Norinco M 93 on the EE, but I took it down again after my range trip on saturday(before I tried the stingers) because the Norinco works way better!
 
Ok, so the gun still sucked after my extractor claw fix. Then I realised it was'nt cocking the hammer properly, even with mini mags.
I picked up a box of CCI Stingers today and it ran like a champ. So it is'nt a mechanincal extraction issue so much as an insufficient recoil issue. I might try to get another recoil spring that I can cut a couple of coils off, too chicken to do it to the only one I have.
It's a nice gun to shoot when it works, but it's pretty bad that these guns are manufactured and sold when they work this poorly.
I like to tinker and make stuff work, but this gun would be a huge dissapointment for most people. I had advertised my Norinco M 93 on the EE, but I took it down again after my range trip on saturday(before I tried the stingers) because the Norinco works way better!

Despite what others say, Norincos do work.
 
So... so far, 100% of folks in this thread with experience with these, have had problems. 100%.... How does that happen? How could a company let that happen? Yikes.
 
So... so far, 100% of folks in this thread with experience with these, have had problems. 100%.... How does that happen? How could a company let that happen? Yikes.

There are better "duty pistol" 22LR clones out there that actually function unless you are stuck on the ISSC?

Hoping to get the 'new to me' one I just acquired out to the range on Wed to give it a test run. I've picked up some CCI mini-mags as consensus was this pistol seems to like these. I have some other hi-vel .22 ammo to try out as well.

Will post a report when I've done this....

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You are much better off to put an Advantage Arms or Tactical Solutions top end on your Glock frame. I have found my various TS and AA top ends extremely reliable and accurate, on Glock 17 and 19/23. It took a lot of doing to get a top end and extended barrel for the 26/27 and wasn't worth it, lots of reliability problems there.

But the G17/22 and 19/23 kits are all good.

I had a close look at the malfunctioning ISSC M22 a fellow at the range had last week, listened to his problems, and watched as it failed to fire. His current problem appeared to be a short, pounded shorter/unhardened, firing pin. Very light strikes, return spring fine, hammer strike strong, barrel/chamber looked OK, recoil spring was holding the pistol in battery nicely. I have forgotten all the issues he had already resolved. Apparently the warranty service is good. If you buy 'em, you better like to fix 'em.
 
When i first met my wife she had a pink target model wouldnt extract fixed that but only ammo it liked was mini mags, after around 2k mini mags it will still have issues with any other ammo, it is whatbit is its is a very accurate gun
 
Bought one, didn't know it would be as good as it was for a training tool. It was the best firearm to demonstrate almost every type of failure a firearm can have. Light strikes, FTT, stove pipes, failure to eject, etc. Needless to say, while trying to break in the gun, my wife had first hand experience with almost every failure. When taking her RPal, she raised her hand to the instructors asking students if they knew what each type of failure was. A great training tool.

As a reliable, working handgun, the ISSC M22 is a failure. I tried every type of 22 ammo I could find, yes all of it, including CCI Stingers. I had problems with them all. Eventually I got tired of the problems, wrote the parent company, ISSC in Austria explaining the issues I'd been having. They agreed to replace the firearm. I returned it to the distributor and waited for the new replacement. A smart individual would have sold the new unfired replacement as quickly as possible and got rid of it. But no, curiosity got the best of me so off to the range I went. Same crap, replacement handgun. It has become a project for me now, as I cannot sell it to anyone in good conscious, knowing the inherent issues with it.

It's too bad really, because it looks nice, is quite simple overall but yet a complete dud. Those who say they have had no problems, I'd be suspect of. There is no perfect fix to these things that I've come across yet. Buyer beware of the ISSC M22.......and because of, I am less likely to buy any ISSC firearm, knowing the issues with the M22 - both my original and the replacement one that suffers from the same problems.

You want a good 22 pistol, look elsewhere.
 
I have a replacement recoil spring on the way. I intend to go to the range with a box of federal bulk ammo and a pair of pliers.
I'll keep cutting 1/2 coils off until it cycles reliably. Right now it works like a champ with stingers, but I'm not running a .22 pistol on $10/box ammo.
I knew what I was getting into, but I would not tell anyone to buy one of these guns.
 
Hoping to get the 'new to me' one I just acquired out to the range on Wed to give it a test run. I've picked up some CCI mini-mags as consensus was this pistol seems to like these. I have some other hi-vel .22 ammo to try out as well.

Will post a report when I've done this....

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Finally got this pistol out to the range today for a test run. I bought this used recently. Came, as new, in box, with 4 mags total. Interior looked as though it had only ever been minimally fired. I had lubed the slide rails liberally with break free prior to firing.

Tried 4 types of .22lr ammo:

Federal "Auto Match" RN
Winchester white box RN
American Eagle Hi-Vel 40 gr RN
CCI Mini-Mag 40 gr RN

Had some extraction & ejection issues with the American Eagle. The odd one would fail to extract or when ejecting create a stove pipe situation. Had similar issues with the Federal "Auto Match" and Winchester white box .22lr ammo.

Of all the ammo, the only one to run flawlessly in this pistol was the CCI Mini-Mag. Mimicking what I've pretty much read on-line.

It's a fun little shooter, especially if you are into the Glock pistols with the "trigger re-set". I found accuracy to be suitable. My groups tended to be slightly high & to the right which is typically how I print with most semi-auto pistols I shoot. [I'm a left handed shooter].

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However, not convinced that I'll be keeping this.

I think I prefer to shoot my GSG 1911 .22lr +/or Colt & Ceiner .22lr conversion units. I definitely prefer the 1911 style over this pistol...... :)

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