ISSC M22 Problems

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I just want everyone to know about the excellent experience that I recently had in dealing with North Sylva. You all may recall my recent (closed) thread in which I expressed my disappointment with North Sylva's customer service. Well was I ever wrong about that. You couldn't ask for better service in my humble opinion. I delivered my M22 to North Sylva on Tuesday April 9th and was advised today that my M22 will be replaced with a brand new one, as mine was defective. I want to express my thanks to both Jon and Rob at North Sylva for the excellent service and support that they provided me. However, I feel that I should make it perfectly clear to all members of GunNutz. North Sylva is a distrubuter. They are NOT a dealer and as such they should be your LAST avenue taken to resolve any firearm related problems. In this situation the M22 was purchased by me from an out of town dealer (Ellwood Epps) and I did contact Epps first. However, after reviewing the cost for shipping it back to Epps, considering what I paid for the gun and the fact that I live in the same city as North Sylva's business, I contacted them directly about my problem. Again thanks NS for everything.....

Kidcom ;);)
 
New ISSC M22

Well I received my new replacement ISSC M22 on Tuesday April 23rd with thanks to North Sylva. I'm off to the range this Saturday to test the new ISSC M22 out. I'll let everyone know how it went...

Kidcom
 
Hope it goes well. I've had one for close to a year, very fun pistol. Mine is okay with Federal bulk, but it loves Mini Mags, just good luck finding them right now
 
10-4 on the mini-mags. It feeds like a charm. Mine is still finicky with the Fed packs, however. I've read a few posts that after a good break-in period it starts to feed the Feds better.
Everyone's milage will vary I guess. Bottom line is that it's well built gun, in my opinion.

The big question is, who has magazines for sale? I'll try North Sylva I guess.
 
dorm said:
10-4 on the mini-mags. It feeds like a charm. Mine is still finicky with the Fed packs, however. I've read a few posts that after a good break-in period it starts to feed the Feds better.
Everyone's milage will vary I guess. Bottom line is that it's well built gun, in my opinion.

The big question is, who has magazines for sale? I'll try North Sylva I guess.
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In all fairness to what you guys have said about this gun and ammo, I have to say that my well-used Ruger 10/22 does not work well with bulk Feds or any Remington ammo. CCI high/hyper velocity or Blazers are the only ammo I feed it as a result.
 
The Results

Well I finally got to test my new replacement ISSC M22 at the range last Saturday. It was a total disaster to say the least. First and foremost, after a couple rounds, off came the front sight once again. As with my previous experience, one of the two little snap in tabs on the sight was broken. This time I came prepared. I stuck the sight back on the slide and added a wee bit of crazy glue to hold it there broken tab and all and it worked. After that things went from bad to worse. I tried various types of ammo which included Blazer 40 grain at 1200FPS, Federal Bulk 40 grain and Winchester 40 grain at 1255FPS. The M22 constantly failed to eject, jammed or failed to feed to the point that I became totally frustrated and packed it in for the day. I was ready to toss the M22 into the trash can on the way out of the gun club but of course didn't. Although extremely frustrated with the M22, I wasn't prepared as yet to throw in the towel. I read several posts here about other people's personal experience with the M22 and what they did to resolve their problems. So I decided to take a different approach to my issue with ammunition. I decided to purchase a more expensive high quality ammunition to see whether or not I get better results. What I purchased was CCI Stinger 22LR Varmint 32 grain at 1640FPS for $6.50 plus tax for a box of 50. When I returned to the club on Tuesday, the results where as different as night and day. I fired the whole box of 50. The first 40 rounds I fired in 10 round groups on bullseye targets. The last ten rounds I rapid fired them at a bullseye target as well. There wasn't one failure to feed or to extract. It was a perfect experience especially the rapid fire, as I was convinced that it would jam. So there you have it. My M22 has now been elevated from a potential piece of junk to having a place on the shelf with my other guns. My only gripe now is that I have to find cheaper ammo that will work. Any suggestions????

kidcom :D:D
 
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kidcom said:
My M22 has now been elevated from a potential piece of junk to having a place on the shelf with my other guns. My only gripe now is that I have to find cheaper ammo that will work. Any suggestions????

kidcom :D:D
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Most of the posts on this pistol all agree, for the most part, that going the more expensive route on the ammo (mine likes mini mags and hates Fed bulk) is the answer. I've read that with time and break-in it becomes more forgiving with Fed bulk and similar ammo but I guess the only way to get there is to stick with the mini mags and and stingers. After my trial and error experience it has also become a favourite of mine.
 
My ISSC M22 loves CCI minimags (hp or rn type). Blazers will NOT cycle unless gun is spotlessly cleaned (!?), federal will do FTE a lot and ANY winchester does not work at all...
One thing that suprised me is that cheap (at least in my town) remington thunderbolts (500 pack) works 100%. It is dirty ammo but works very good.
My 2 cents...
 
Kidcom,

Some rimfires (see most) are ammo picky by nature.

I'm glad to hear you found a load that the gun likes. CCI seems to work well in most rimfires. maybe try a few different "bulk" brands before you give up hope.

Please let us know if you have any other issues.

Thanks,
 
Final Thoughts on ISSC M22

Ok I can finally give the M22 my Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval so to speak. I've tried several different brands of ammo over the course of the last month with varying results. The problem with the M22 is NOT the gun itself BUT it's magazines. I've always loaded my mags with max amount of ammo (10 rounds) only to have it consistently jam. By putting only 5 rounds per mag eliminated all of the problems that I was having. I even went back to ammo that I previously tried and had failed to cycle properly only to find the ammo worked perfectly under my 5 round per mag rule. The fact that I've put over 500 rounds through the M22 probably helped as well. So if you want a cheap 22LR Glock knockoff, go for the ISSC M22. It's fairly accurate and not bad for the price.

kidcom :rockOn:
 
ya.. after shooting 500 round of more powerfull ammo (stinger and minimag) the spring is probably not hard like it was new
I have already heard that its a good thing to shoot 100 round of stinger or minimag before trying more cheapest round...

HAve you tried to shoot with full mag of cheap ammo after the stinger and minimag ?!
 
If I may. I have had mine for a while, been to the range twice and have tried a long long list of ammo and 9 times out of 10 it fails to extract. Now 8 have cleaned it and fired it dry no difference. I have oiled the pi $# out of it no difference. Then on the advice of my local gun store I attempted to polish it with Flitz, and still 9 out of 10 wouldn't extract. The extractor looks mint and I personally can't find anything wrong.
 
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have to cut the slide down, on youtube , extractor not returning to grab casing ,, easy fix if you got the time and gear,,
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You don't need to cut the slide at all. What if something goes wrong and you somehow damage the slide? You then have a very expensive repair on you hands. What I did was to simply file down the outside of the extractor (cheap to replace) so that it doesn't rub against the slide. That was the end of all my extraction problems....
 
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