- Location
- Saskatchewan
What is the best thing an individual can due to contribute to fighting this nonsense??? I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who will do whatever it takes to have our voice heard but dont know where to start
It is a very sad day in the firearms community.
- Thread starter IRUNGUNS
- Start date
Shootin'Shaner
Member
- Location
- London, Ontario
I agree
Shootin'Shaner
Member
- Location
- London, Ontario
You keep saying it’s factual, but there has been no proof given.
Name the reserves and I will start investigating your false claims for you.
Shootin'Shaner
Member
- Location
- London, Ontario
BULLSEYE put up a nice post about this, they’re actually doing something about it instead of inciting hate, racism and division.
Shootin'Shaner
Member
- Location
- London, Ontario
one specifically is Akwesasne.
There has been full auto rifles, grenade launchers, heavy machine guns seized here.
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/2018-19-kwssn-rgnzd-crm-vltn/index-en.aspx
https://nationalpost.com/health/contraband-capital-the-akwesasne-mohawk-reserve-is-a-smuggling-conduit-police-say
https://thewalrus.ca/canadas-toughest-border-crossing/
https://aptnnews.ca/2016/02/19/akwesasne-under-surveillance-by-military-counter-intelligence-unit-documents/
Shootin'Shaner
Member
- Location
- London, Ontario
Good job, the most recent link is from 2 years ago. Ok, what are the other 4? We can’t conclude that one reserve is the hub of MOST of the smuggling going on in Canada.
The British Parliamentary system belongs to constitutional monarchy, it is another way of the Despotism(Autocracy), (it is the same as the Chinese government)Whatever who is Prime minister, Monarch always is Monarch. A prime minister has liked a chamberlain. Canada has not a democratic right, so call"democratic right" is a charity from the monarch. the monarch will take off a right from citizens anytime by an order. The constitutional monarchy core is more tax, less right.
The citizen has the natural right to protect themself when he/she is in danger. right now, our rights and weapon were taken by an order from the government. it is tyranny rule.
someday we would need an ID when buying the cooking knife.
Shootin'Shaner
Member
- Location
- London, Ontario
I read through all of the links, and the first one was the most informative, but for the most part all the links highlighted contraband tobacco and marijuana, not firearms. I read in the first link that 7 various firearms and one A/K were seized by police between 2013-2017. I mean I could have just googled Akwesasne and came up with the same info, but irg made it sound like they had facts that MOST of the illegal firearms were smuggled through reserves. Link 2 was pretty useless, link 3 was also useless, and link 4 was basically a review of the reports from link 1. irg, before stating cold hard facts, maybe make sure they're true next time.
We are not here to debate it with you. (Cold hard Facts) as you put it are based on actual incidents where people are caught and convicted. Talk to someone from ICE, CBP or CBSA, they are the ones on the front line battling the problem.
Shootin'Shaner
Member
- Location
- London, Ontario
My point exactly, quit dividing our community and keep your opinions to yourself. Thanks for your disservice.
In the 1990 Oka crisis, which group was it that brandished firearms at the Military and Police? Right, so let’s exempt that very same group from the OIC fiat.
You have to be in a state of mental derangement to think this way. Being critical of this exemption isn’t throwing anyone under any bus, it’s being factual, and facts don’t care about feelings.
If anyone thinks that nothing gets smuggled through the reservations, I’ve got an AR15 to sell them.
Thanks for all you do, IRG.
You have to be in a state of mental derangement to think this way. Being critical of this exemption isn’t throwing anyone under any bus, it’s being factual, and facts don’t care about feelings.
If anyone thinks that nothing gets smuggled through the reservations, I’ve got an AR15 to sell them.
Thanks for all you do, IRG.
Shootin'Shaner
Member
- Location
- London, Ontario
Thanks Mr. Shapiro, you're right, facts don't care about your feelings, but make sure your facts are right. Natives are not exempt from this ban, they are simply allowed to use the newly banned guns for hunting purposes until the amnesty period is finished at that point I'm sure they will be included in the buy back.
themachinist
CGN Regular
- Location
- lower mainland , bc
A different set of rules, for a different race of people, is racist.
"Yet the Canadian government gives a pass. Why, is it to ensure the continuation of illegal arms into Canada or is it maybe because the indigenous are better organized and stand up for what they believe in."
Plains and simple....the government fears the natives. I admire them....they have always stood up the the government and the government always backs down. If firearms owners stopped infighting and did the same, we wouldn't be where we are today.
Plains and simple....the government fears the natives. I admire them....they have always stood up the the government and the government always backs down. If firearms owners stopped infighting and did the same, we wouldn't be where we are today.
I am not the only one that is sick and tired of everything in this country being run at Montreal and Toronto's whim, I totally agree with Mr. Kenny's statement, maybe this country would be better served if the the people making decisions on firearms legislation were from that part of the country that is affected by it. Life West of Ontario is a whole lot different than in Toronto and Montreal, in fact I am sure that the feelings of country people in Ontario and Quebec feel much the same as we out west. Firearms legislation should be run from the provinces and not by the Feds. I say give the Federal CFO the boot and tell Mr Trudeau we will look after our selves thank you very much. anyone remember what his fathers solute was to Western Canada, well I think it is time to return it to his offspring with a long middle finger. One should ask Mayor Torie how well his buy back worked out for curbing gun violence in Toronto, likely would have been better spent fixing potholes instead.
Last edited:
steamy teabag
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Inside Carneys Reich
Modern treaty obligations and Indigenous engagement and consultation
The Amnesty Order permits the use of any of the newly prohibited firearms, if previously non-restricted, to hunt for the purposes of sustenance or to exercise a right recognized and affirmed by section 35 of the Constitution. From fall 2018 to spring 2019, the Government held extensive engagement with Indigenous groups, provinces and territories, municipalities, law enforcement agencies, academics, victim groups and other key stakeholders on limiting access to assault-style firearms and handguns. Recognizing that some Indigenous and sustenance hunters could be using previously non-restricted firearms for their hunting and may be unable to replace these firearms immediately, the Amnesty Order includes provisions for the limited use of these firearms for such purposes. Following the publication of the Regulations, the Government will continue to engage with Indigenous groups to assess whether the prohibition of these firearms has a continued impact on the right to hunt affirmed by section 35 of the Constitution."
Exempt in perpetuity. Notice it's a "right".
