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Beautiful day out yesterday. Went to the range to try my 597 VTR at 100 yards (I can only shoot 50 in the backyard). Using the bdc dots built into my Bushnell AR22 and minimags, I managed to shoot not one, but two tacks! I still can't believe I did it. The best part, just the front Bipod and no rear bag. Now I have to try that 50 yard challenge again.
 
Well, it was a few more than 2. About 10 for the first one and 6 for the second. My spotter said I was shooting all around the first one, just missing it by a bullet width. He was afraid it was going to fall out before I hit it. The second was a little easier. I think this rifle needs a bit more than 2-7 magnification.
 
Bingo. That is why I recommend a higher mag than 3-9x. Sure you can hit pop cans at 100yds but 1" groups is hard woth low mag.
You cant hit what you cant see.
 
Well, it was a few more than 2. About 10 for the first one and 6 for the second. My spotter said I was shooting all around the first one, just missing it by a bullet width. He was afraid it was going to fall out before I hit it. The second was a little easier. I think this rifle needs a bit more than 2-7 magnification.

Still great shooting , and with 7x, really great.
 
I've been thinking for the last couple of days about this. How much magnification should I be looking for if I were to get a new scope? Ideally, I'd like the same scope that I have right now, but with more magnification. Currently running a Bushnell AR22 2-7x32. It has AO and turrets that you don't have to remove those silly caps.
 
I like at least 10x minimum at 100 yards. Higher the better in my opinion, but keep in mind if you use your rifle for anything other than target shooting, it's a real pain shooting close distances when your minimum settings are 6 or 8x.
 
The lowest power scope I have on a .22 right now and probably the lowest I would go is a Bushnell 3200 5-15x40 and I can't figure out why I would want anything with a lower power. The highest is a Bushnell 6-24x40. I can easily find any target I am going to shoot @5x and I can find smaller targets, grouse heads @50yds for instance, easily @15x so why handicap myself with some silly little scope. 2-7 or 3-9 are OK for big game, not that I use them, but for shooting small things magnification is king IMO and small things is what I shoot with a .22
 
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The thought of putting a Bushnell 6500 on one of my CZ455's became a reality when I purchased a 2.5-16 x 42 with the DOA reticle.
The same scope but with a Mil Dot reticle went onto the American and sighted in at 100 yards.
The group at 25 yards was about 1.5" high and probably the first dot above the cross hair would provide "minute of gopher" accuracy.
Shooting at 192 yards, the bullets dropped into a group that measured 2 3/8's and 2 3/4's using CCI MiniMags round nose.
Using that drop and adjusting the power to 10, the fourth dot became the point of aim to hit one of those orange balls suspended on a string.
When the balls was allowed to settle it could be hit 50% of the time. The trick was to let it settle as there was about 4" of movement both up and down and right to left.
Reminder: Shorten the string!

 
The thought of putting a Bushnell 6500 on one of my CZ455's became a reality when I purchased a 2.5-16 x 42 with the DOA reticle.
The same scope but with a Mil Dot reticle went onto the American and sighted in at 100 yards.
The group at 25 yards was about 1.5" high and probably the first dot above the cross hair would provide "minute of gopher" accuracy.
Shooting at 192 yards, the bullets dropped into a group that measured 2 3/8's and 2 3/4's using CCI MiniMags round nose.
Using that drop and adjusting the power to 10, the fourth dot became the point of aim to hit one of those orange balls suspended on a string.
When the balls was allowed to settle it could be hit 50% of the time. The trick was to let it settle as there was about 4" of movement both up and down and right to left.
Reminder: Shorten the string!


Why do you have it mounted so high?
 
I've been thinking for the last couple of days about this. How much magnification should I be looking for if I were to get a new scope? Ideally, I'd like the same scope that I have right now, but with more magnification. Currently running a Bushnell AR22 2-7x32. It has AO and turrets that you don't have to remove those silly caps.

The caps help keep your adjustments correct and turrets clean when its getting carried. If you go in the bush with your rifle, you would want to have them on.
 
For my 22 I like to have better FOV than super high mag. and run 3-9. 3-12 would work. It's easier to follow gophers. HMR needs more power so you can see their eyeballs.
 
9X & 12X on the high end are not enough for shooting tiny groups with .22 LR... minimum 14X, but 16X/20X/24X are even better... you will be amazed at the difference at both 50m and 100. I have Leupold VX-2 6-18X40 AO scopes on a couple, VX-3 6.5-20X40 AO on a couple and a Weaver V24 on a bench rifle. My hunting/plinking .22 wears a VX-3 2.5-8X36, which is more than enough for grouse and hares.
 
How often do you have it on 3-4x? How often do you have it on 9x?

this is where you really have to think about what your main intentions are for the rifle. where i shoot gophers, i have it on 3-4 most all the time when walking. the little buggers are always darting across your feet or 5-10 yards out. once the bipod folds down and i have a good spot to sit and pick them off, the more power the better. those fast runners close up are just too darn hard for me to find with 6x. if shooting paper, i cant say i would ever have it less than full power, no matter what that was (and the more the better as mentioned) also as mentioned above the elite 6500 2.5-16 is a very nice rimfire optic, they can be had for a real good price once in a while on the ee.
 
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