We do have comparable places you know...and they're the reason I loved working the tundra. Although Jet B not igniting....that has to be at well below -50C as I've been picked up at the end of the workday in about -47-48C(plus a 60-70km/h wind...it was a f-ing cold day).
Izh Tigr 7.62 - the best hunting rifle I have seen.
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We do have comparable places you know...and they're the reason I loved working the tundra. Although Jet B not igniting....that has to be at well below -50C as I've been picked up at the end of the workday in about -47-48C(plus a 60-70km/h wind...it was a f-ing cold day).
Agreed, I have been stranded in the north when temps hit -60c with no wind.... Not fun! Have also been left in the bush for several days with no supplies or warm clothing due to freezing rain in Pickle Lake, but it was -35c at night where I was. Canada has its share of nasty weather and places.
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- West Quebec
I think in terms of the balmy south of Canada and still feel cold..
The rivers and the lakes all freeze right down to bottom.
The positive side is that there are NO blackflies! Mosquitoes, deer and horse flies yes, but no little guys.
And people still go there because...? Ah, gold yes, right
In 2003 when we started drilling the market cap of our company was $0.7B. When we were bought in 2007 our market cap at takeover was $4B.
That is why strong, smart people go up there.
- Location
- West Quebec
There's something about a tough, simple reliable, design even on a simple day hunting trip that I just love, now I may be biased since I spend a lot more time in the "main battle rifles" and "red rifles" section on here and I know im posting this in the hunting and sporting arms where those folks like to hang out however, the rifle the OP posted is a semi auto so the obvious "hunting" rifles to compare it too are the Remington 750 rifles, the benelli R1, the Browning Bar and similar
the problem is i have yet to have/see any good experiences with modern hunting semi autos. i had a rem 7400, I could not get it to fire more than 3 rounds without a jam. , fail to feed, fail to eject i now use my CZ when i want a semi auto in the bush.
Other folks in my hunting party had similar semi autos and all of them had problems every year.
However one guy had a rusty beat up SKS and it was trouble free year after year.
I don't understand how 800-1200$ guns are unreliable when we can have SKS rifles or Norc M305s for a fraction of the cost with a fraction of the maintence and have less issues. the fit and finish is defiantly less so it must be a design difference.
Agreed the rifle the OP posted is a big heavy PIG im sure its also tough and reliable as dirt. and simple to maintain in the field. this has to count for something, not every hunting trip around the world is a "clean gun for 3 hours, transport gun in clean shiny case, remove gun from case while being careful not to get it damp or dusty while entering your covered tree stand wait for 8 hours, go home and re-clean gun for next day" type hunting trip
oh, and awesome pics above!
the problem is i have yet to have/see any good experiences with modern hunting semi autos. i had a rem 7400, I could not get it to fire more than 3 rounds without a jam. , fail to feed, fail to eject i now use my CZ when i want a semi auto in the bush.
Other folks in my hunting party had similar semi autos and all of them had problems every year.
However one guy had a rusty beat up SKS and it was trouble free year after year.
I don't understand how 800-1200$ guns are unreliable when we can have SKS rifles or Norc M305s for a fraction of the cost with a fraction of the maintence and have less issues. the fit and finish is defiantly less so it must be a design difference.
Agreed the rifle the OP posted is a big heavy PIG im sure its also tough and reliable as dirt. and simple to maintain in the field. this has to count for something, not every hunting trip around the world is a "clean gun for 3 hours, transport gun in clean shiny case, remove gun from case while being careful not to get it damp or dusty while entering your covered tree stand wait for 8 hours, go home and re-clean gun for next day" type hunting trip
oh, and awesome pics above!
Sorry you had bad experiences with Remington autoloaders. A lot on here like to bash them. Most have never owned one just repeating what they've heard from some other guy who never owned one. I have owned and hunted with three, a .308 742 carbine, a .30/06 742 rifle and at present a .30/06 742 carbine first year of production that is going moose hunting next month. I have never had any failures to feed or eject in the field or at the range with any of them. I would rather lug any of them hunting than some clubby abortion of a military rifle personally. And the OP opined that this rifle was "the best hunting rifle" period, no qualifiers.
The few semi-auto rifles I have used for hunting worked flawlessly, such as a Browning BAR in 300WM, another in 308 Win, a Rem 7400 in 30-06 and a Benelli in 308. They aren't my cup of tea, but worked great for their intended purpose. I have also used an SKS and find those to function well, but I ends there, not nice to handle, doesn't naturally balance in the hands, doesn't point naturally and is in an underpowered and limited cartridge.
I guess if you want to run around pretending you are some elite soldier instead of enjoying the pursuit of game those military style rifles appeal to some people. They aren't designed around taking down game, while being carry/balance/point and function friendly. They were designed for defence/assault vs other humans shooting back. However some designs work well for harvesting game as well. But not many.
I guess if you want to run around pretending you are some elite soldier instead of enjoying the pursuit of game those military style rifles appeal to some people. They aren't designed around taking down game, while being carry/balance/point and function friendly. They were designed for defence/assault vs other humans shooting back. However some designs work well for harvesting game as well. But not many.
I agree an SKS is not a particularly comfortable gun and I find it to have a weird balance as well.
I personally find most milsurp guns feel comfortable and are function friendly. they were designed to be carried in the field and shoot targets just like a hunting rifle. to each their own.
I also must agree with your signature, a nice bolt action 6mm Remington would be an excellent deer rifle and is on my list.
I was actually looking at rifles in 6mm today before I even saw your post.So Jet A with a Jet B label?
Now that would be fun to try and run below -30...That said they're not supposed to fly below -40 as it's waaay to hard on equipment.
I have worked in -72 degree weather right here in good old Canada, don't need to go to Russia to get that, and we were 100s of miles from the closest town with any kind of help. Our Canadian arctic is just as harsh and just as desolate as Russia, hell I've hunted in -45 weather and I had a choice in that matter.
I'm afraid that I'm in the "you got to be kidding" camp about the rifle, I have 40 better "hunting" rifles in my vault than some heavy para-military semi auto Dragunov look-a-like. However given that most hunting in Russia is conducted from helicopters, it may be the perfect Russian hunting rifle. Who cares how long or heavy it is "just pass me 3 more magazines please and reload these 3".
I'm afraid that I'm in the "you got to be kidding" camp about the rifle, I have 40 better "hunting" rifles in my vault than some heavy para-military semi auto Dragunov look-a-like. However given that most hunting in Russia is conducted from helicopters, it may be the perfect Russian hunting rifle. Who cares how long or heavy it is "just pass me 3 more magazines please and reload these 3".
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Ok fine, is this cool enough?
You can buy this right away:
http://interammo.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=32_33&products_id=75
but somehow I doubt that
I would gladly hunt with that beasty in any conditions I would likely be in, given the type of hunting I do.
The proven accuracy and durability of this design is well respected by those that know. The 7.62x54R
is nicely capable of world wide hunting for most critters under the right conditions with proper loads.
Gimmie one of these puppies chambered in 6.5x54R and I'd be in a happy state for sure.
Vostrovia!
