Jammed BD-38 Help!

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Bought one of the BD 38's from Marstar and have committed a cardinal sin with it. I had a mixture of 9mm bullets (yes I know, I should be beaten with a stick) that were reloads from a friend and tried to cycle them through the gun. On the second shot, one jammed in the barrel, casing and all (round didn't go off) and now I can't get the bolt to open, or come back. I am afraid to force the bolt handle back as it's really jammed. I have not tried to disassemble the gun yet as I am slightly afraid it may go off or damage something. I have considered taking the barrel off but according to an expert on U-tube he says you need special tools to do so. Does anyone out there know what I should do now? Hope someone can offer some advice. Thanks

grant580
 
Took the BD -38 to a gunsmith in town who apparantly used to build sniper rifles, and smg's of some sort when it was legal. Never thought of the rubber mallet trick, guess I am still in a semi state of shock. Didn't have much time to talk to the fellow yet, but looks like he may be handy to know for guys like us?? Will keep you posted, and thanks very much for the help guys.
 
The BD38 fires from an open bolt. A live round stuck in the chamber is a really touchy situation. The firing pin will be in contact with the primer, bump the cocking handle foreward and the gun is going to fire. Bump it rearward, and if the bolt goes foreward a bit, it could fire.
As Suputin recommended, have the thing pointed in a safe direction - downrange - because there is a pretty good chance of firing the gun while trying to clear it.
Using a rod to try to tap out the stuck round - a normal enough procedure in most other guns - would be REALLY dangerous with this one. Tap the round back against the firing pin, and it is going to fire, with the rod in the bore and heaven only knows what in front.
Incidentally, transporting the gun in this condition wasn't exactly safe..... If the gun were jarred while in transit.....
 
Have you an arbor press or pneumatic jack of sorts.
Does the bolt allow it come back a bit or enough so that you can get some sort of metal shim bar rope finger what ever in there and SLOWLY press the bolt away from you barrel.............+1 on the mallet but slamming that rearward and the possibly coming back to set off the bullet is not ideal, hence the idea of PRESSING it away......

be safe!
 
If the upper can be separated from the lower, the recoil spring assembly could be withdrawn, along with the attached firing pin. This would make the gun a LOT safer to work on.
 
Had a similar problem with a C-9 once. (Fires from the open bolt also)

Ended up using a belt wrapped around the charging handle to assist in holding the action to the rear when it was loosened up with a boot.

(Tension on the belt kept the bolt from going forward and firing the round....or so goes the theory.)

NS
 
I know that transporting the gun was unsafe, but I secured it in my truck with the muzzle down and treated like it could go off at any time, what else could I do? The gunsmith I took it to says he gets guys bringing in guns with loaded bullets in the chamber often and didn't seem too worried about dealing with mine, he is also very familiar with the mp 38s. Not sure how he is going to get it out but should find out today. Thanks for all the input and comments.
 
Editing/deleting this thread because I found out this Howie Mason of Mason machine in Cranbrook BC is not a liscensed gunsmith, therefore I cannot recommend him.
 
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