Jammed Ramrod

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Ok, so I'm a complete dumbass. Tried to remove fouling from my new Lyman Deerstalker after only being out once with it, was using solvent and a brass cleaning brush attached to ramrod. Now it's stuck, and probably harder to get out than the "sword in the stone". Anybody have tips on how I can get this thing out so I can finish cleaning the barrel before a whole lot of pitting occurs? Preferably something that doesn't involve a ramrod puller.
 
Some thoughts - unscrew the breechplug, and push the rod all the way through; or, grab the rod in a vice and pull the barrel off the rod, straight pull so as not to break the rod.
 
Remove the barrel, get it to a sink of hot water, and pour hot water down the barrel. Let it flow off the ramrod , that way it gets in the barrel.
Then haul on it. Get a good wrap of electrical tape, anything that will give you some pulling power.
If its stuck mid bore, try an determine which way it got stuck, pushing or pulling (brush) cause of the way the bristles are pointing. Let us know of any changes. Its hard to figure when your not there.
 
Levi has it right, get it very wet, even add a little Murphys oil soap or just dish soap. I hope you are using a good cleaning rod, and not a wood one. The end may pull out of a wood one. Next time you are removing fouling, take short strokes with a wet patch, and work your way down the barrel. Good luck.
 
You can make a ramrod puller from a flat piece of steel with a 3/8" hole in it.
Everybody gets their ramrod stuck eventually, so it's handy to have one around.I've found soaking the inside with patch lube works also.
Cheers nessy.
 
Thanks for the help everybody! As far as I know it's a fixed breech plug which can't be removed, so I've tried putting gun oil, non-petroleum based bore cleaner, and dish soap through so far in combination with the hot water. Hasn't budged yet, so I think i'll go out and buy some bore butter and try nessy's idea. Hope it comes out, 'cause I haven't even owned this thing for a week yet! :confused:
 
If it is a brand new brass brush, all you need to do is twist it as you are pulling back. After the brush has been used a few times, the bristles get crushed a bit and you don't need to twist it.

cheers mooncoon
 
Here's a pic of a puller, screwdriver,file,knapper.
puller002.jpg

I wouldn't use bore butter, either moose milk, or Hoppe's#9, failing that any good liquid lubricant.
Cheers nessy.
 
If it is a bore brush that is stuck it has nothing to do with needing lube...read mooncoons post sounds like he has it right. All you need to do is pull it out with a twisting motion. Next time work the brush in and out a few times leaving lots of rod to hold onto before bottoming it out or have a ram rod T handle attached.
 
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Next time work the brush in and out a few times leaving lots of rod to hold onto before bottoming it out or have a ram rod T handle attached.
Not a big fan of reversing the flow like that with bronze brush , scratching the bore, I'm with snowshoe on preventing this from happening in the first place with a wet patch:runaway: cause why break the brush up, use a smaller one if you wanna go that route
 
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It took a few hours and an epic battle between man and ramrod, but I got it out. Thanks everybody!
 
hornhead said:
didn't want to hijack the thread, but i wanted to tell nessy - that is a very slick , simple piece of kit he posted a pic of.


That is sweet. I think that I have found a weekend project.:)
 
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