Jard semi , 3wks away.
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nice shooting. I got 1 moa out of my xcr,but I only did a couple of 5 rnd groups. I liked the load so much that I made 2000 rnds,53 g vmax and 26.2 g of CFE 223.I still have the 2000 loads as I sold my XCR before I got to use them.Lol, sounds like the same stories as the guys getting 1 moa from their XCR's. Just shoot 10 rounds and disregard the flyers and it will do it. I really doubt this rifle will shoot 1moa but if it does then that's great.
My NR ACR will do sub mopa with my 300BLK conversion I built for it. I have to use handloads though and it was built with a match grade stainless barrel plus I have to do my part which doesn't happen every day but it will do it most of the time.
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Yes it was at 100 yards, i have been doing a lot experimenting with the J48. approx 2000 rounds, mix of reload, AR223 and Chinese. The gun is ugly but that is not a problem, i was very impressed with the accuracy and ease of disassemble. What i have done to it, Magpul grip and stock, removed the forend front plate to guarantee free float and install adjustable gas block, trigger job, bolt and head space work, and alot more. I have not had a black gun that shot the Chinese ammo as accurate as this one.
So your getting MOA consistently out of an XCR (or was it two #5Rd. groups out of dozens attempted that were MOA) and you sell it? Why?
When it's difficult to get MOA out of any center-fire semi.-auto. rifle. I can't imagine why you would sell one, especially one that's NR.
Cheers D
So all these modifications and a Jard48 Rifle may be capable of 1MOA accuracy, so what does that mean for a stock/un-modified Jard48 Rifle #2+MOA or #3+MOA at best? maybe worse? Not that #2+MOA or #3+MOA would be horrible, actually I would expect that to be well expected or worse from this particular rifle, but honesty is what we need now not possible accuracy potential if all these conditions/modifications that you've made are met.
Dwight42 with #2,000Rds. downrange you must have done before and after accuracy testing (how else would you know your modifications were improving accuracy), so do tell? and please fill us in on the JARD48's reliability too.
What is the Jard48 rifle capable of when in original condition with factory ammo. (and please specify ammo. brand/type, distance and optics... please).
I'm also curious how your reloads of AR.223 are 1MOA only .5MOA better then Norc. ammo. (as stated in a earlier post by Brianma65)
Also what other rifles have you to compare the JARD48 accuracy too as you state "I have not had a black gun that shot the Chinese ammo as accurate as this one".
I do not want to come across as the heavy here, but there is a lot of s*#t being thrown around at the moment. If the Jard48 is capable of even close to 1MOA with match grade ammo./re-loads? and a trigger job (not that a trigger job improves accuracy technically) many here might be interested in paying $1,500 providing reliability is excellent too.
Otherwise I suppose the motto to this story is spend enough money on any rifle and it could shoot MOA (well except s Ruger Mini-14
), because doing all the mod.'s you claim to have done would be very costly at your average gunsmith, not to mention time consuming (as in wait time). and don't forget the "and a lot more" mystery modifications...Okay I really want to enjoy more NR Black rifles especially accurate and reliable ones, but I'd prefer they not require a complete revamp of their whole system to get close to MOA accuracy, particularly when the cost of said rifle starts out at around $1,500. Saying that if this rifle proves reliable and capable of 2+MOA or even 3MOA it may find a market here, but better accuracy is always better.
So please give us the low down on this new NR Black rifle.
Cheers D
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Okay fair enough, XCR's are expensive, but with MOA accuracy it must have been a tough sale.
Cheers D
Very tough, I've regretted it very much
But I've replaced it with a 686-5 and this.. The J48 that Dwight has , is the first run. The J48 that Wanstall has is a second run , with a couple of minor adjustments. ( that's what I've been told anyway)
I have a nice supply of .223 , so I'll put 7 or 8 hundred rnds through it when I get it. I can compare it to an SU16 and a XCR -L. Keep in mind, it'll be from a very inexperienced user.
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Curious, was your XCR upgraded to a Herron Arms SS barrel in .223 or another?
Cheers D
I had one out for a day, it's quite accurate but it has a couple minor issues ,function wise. It has a really nice trigger, barrel , ergos. I'd like to see the charging handle moved to the left side ( non reciprocating ). If they get it right , this will be a better option than what's already available . Look how long it RA to get where they're at with the XCR and at almost double the price ,they're not still at 100%.
that would be the ACR ... You can't do that with the Robinsons Arms XCR...
Actually I do believe there have been CGN members that have re-barreled their XCR's with Herron Arms and other Co.'s barrels, which as they have stated here at CGN improved accuracy.
Your XCR being stock barrelled and getting MOA accuracy is quite amazing, a Unicorn for sure as I've never heard of another even coming close to MOA accuracy (when using multiple #5+ round groups to determine MOA and not discounting fliers or one off #3 round group).
The Jard J48 if proven reliable will be another NR semi.-auto. center-fire option for our Canadian market and we need more of that, so it's a good thing. Although at $1,500+ I feel it's a little expensive and may find difficulty competing with the Benelli MR1, however if it proves to be very accurate (close to MOA) then that will really help (saying that it's always surprising to me when a new rifle comes to market and the company doesn't advertise it's accuracy or round count w/o failure reliability tests that it must have survived to be proven reliable; of course some of the better rifles/companies available have mentioned this and some even offer a guarantee of accuracy potential, but it's not often).
Cheers D
It's actually not that bad, the rails will definitely dress it up and it wouldn't be to bulky, as the unrailed handguard is very slim. The barrel is a medium contour . There is a longer 10 inch fore arm available. (9 inch in the picture). It's light and nice to handle.
