Nailed it. Thank you
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Nailed it. Thank you
OK, I'll bite and I'm going to try your experiment.
Sweets 7.62 says it can be left in the bore for extended times.
I used to make up my own ammonia solutions back in the day and they were much stronger than Sweets, to get out the Cupro-Nickel fouling.
Like I stated, I have a Win Mod 70 barrel that had been left with an ammonia/ballistol solution in the bore and it's now badly pitted.
Sweets 7.62 says it can be left in the bore for extended times.
I used to make up my own ammonia solutions back in the day and they were much stronger than Sweets, to get out the Cupro-Nickel fouling.
Like I stated, I have a Win Mod 70 barrel that had been left with an ammonia/ballistol solution in the bore and it's now badly pitted.
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Choosing a good copper fouling solvent is critical to the health of your bore. Traditionally, the active ingredient in most dedicated copper solvents is ammonia. It works great on copper, dissolving it in pretty short order. However, it can etch the steel in your barrel, too, particularly if it’s left in for more than 10 to 30 minutes, depending on the strength of the solvent.
Modern “gentle” copper solvents utilize chemicals that are harmless to steel, and won’t harm your bore even if left in for extended periods. They take a little longer to dissolve the copper, but it’s well worth it.
It’s difficult to drive home strongly enough the risk inherent to ammonia-based solvents. Once, while touring the Norma Ammunition facility in Sweden, I had the opportunity to visit with one of the company’s lead product managers. This gentleman had qualified for four consecutive Olympics during his career. In other words, he knew shooting, and he knew rifle barrels.
Choosing a good copper fouling solvent is critical to the health of your bore. Traditionally, the active ingredient in most dedicated copper solvents is ammonia. It works great on copper, dissolving it in pretty short order. However, it can etch the steel in your barrel, too, particularly if it’s left in for more than 10 to 30 minutes, depending on the strength of the solvent.
Modern “gentle” copper solvents utilize chemicals that are harmless to steel, and won’t harm your bore even if left in for extended periods. They take a little longer to dissolve the copper, but it’s well worth it.
It’s difficult to drive home strongly enough the risk inherent to ammonia-based solvents. Once, while touring the Norma Ammunition facility in Sweden, I had the opportunity to visit with one of the company’s lead product managers. This gentleman had qualified for four consecutive Olympics during his career. In other words, he knew shooting, and he knew rifle barrels.
Ammonia is NH3 and I have left metal in ammonia for weeks, if not months and it hasn't pitted or corroded
Ballistol, i have no idea of what is in it - chemically ...
Metal in ammonia not corroding. OK what is that metal's composition???
Some metals will not show any effects from immersion in Ammonia, I fully agree with that. Many won't and depending on the composition of the metal used to make your barrels, it's very possible ''etching'' will happen, even after short immersion periods.
Some metals will not show any effects from immersion in Ammonia, I fully agree with that. Many won't and depending on the composition of the metal used to make your barrels, it's very possible ''etching'' will happen, even after short immersion periods.
But, an old guy on youtube that claims to be an expert made a video saying it is bad for rifles.
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The only people who worry about ammonia corroding steel are rifle cleaners who are going off of old prevailing wisdom. Ammonia of both anhydrous and hydrate forms are so widely used in different industries, it's been studied to death. There are many scientific papers out there on the effects of ammonia on metals. Steel /iron ALWAYS gets a pass. If certain popular solvents caused staining or pitting in a barrel, it wasn't from the ammonia.
I truly believe that the ammonia cleans so well it unmasks faults hidden by fouling.
Also the advent of the bore scope has caused some folks to panic. A local firearms/ammo/ cleaning products dealer got a bore scope. Very handy when assessing the barrel of a trade in after he did a thorough barrel clean. Of course the new rifle has had several passes with a vaseline saturated patch, then a clean patch to make it look pristine.
