JC Custom Barrels vs Benchmark or Krieger

Since I was the bozo who started this thread I thought I should follow up. I decided to go with a JC Custom barrel. .224, 6 groove, heavy varmint (with a small dimension change), 1/8" finished at 28". Should be done in a couple of weeks-ish.

Once my build is done and I've had a chance to put it through its paces I will report back here with a full review and a metric F-ton of photos.

Thanks for the input and advice everyone. I'm pumped to see what kind of groups I can get out of the JC Custom.

Thanks again,
Cal.
 
Both cut and button will be competitive if done correctly (I have seen winning barrels form both ) , most shooters would be hard pressed to tell the difference on paper .it really comes down to lot# of steel ( beyond our control) , the fellow who actually machines the barrel ( assuming the equipment is up to the task) and the processes followed to get to the end product. The very best equipment and a mediocre operator make a less than stellar barrel , doesn't matter what maker.and vice versa .
To the Op , can't see you having issues with the path your on, shoot lots and enjoy the process
 
peterdobson said:
For those interested in barrel making: http://www.firearmsid.com/feature articles/rifledbarrelmanuf/barrelmanufacture.htm

This was first mentioned on CGN by another - thanks!

Regarding button v cut - the results speak for themselves.

Regards,

Peter
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I was of the same opinion a short time ago Peter , since then I have been exposed to some button barrels that have been just as competitive as any of the cut stuff ,I'm only interested in what gives me the best chance to win So I continue to test both processes
 
Pesky ab,
this might be of interest to you , I am in contact with a few good barrel makers in the US and we share lots of ideas and theories on what makes a hummer barrel and I can guarantee it isn't what you read on the net as far as barrel dimensions go anyways.

About 3 days ago I received an email and this maker got his hands on a 30 cal 17 twist barrel that was a hummer and pretty much beat everything and won some big matches the interior dimensions were not what you would expect .

Pm me if you want to know more
 
Pesky ABG,of course there are a few button barrels doing well, but it is about 18-19 or higher (guess) to 1 for cut rifled at the top in BR and FClass.
 
calvados.boulard said:
Since I was the bozo who started this thread I thought I should follow up. I decided to go with a JC Custom barrel. .224, 6 groove, heavy varmint (with a small dimension change), 1/8" finished at 28". Should be done in a couple of weeks-ish.

Once my build is done and I've had a chance to put it through its paces I will report back here with a full review and a metric F-ton of photos.

Thanks for the input and advice everyone. I'm pumped to see what kind of groups I can get out of the JC Custom.

Thanks again,
Cal.
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I also decided to go with a JC for my new build (300wm 1:9), should be about a month away from getting the barrel.
 
Pesky ab said:
Ratio is about 50-1 that shoot cut vs button currently in sbr , cut is the flavour of the day right now ,
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I have a theory about this, and its just a theory no factual basis. If every person shooting a chosen discipline is using x brand equipment then that will be what is the most winning, the guys that are not winning will want to use what the best guys are using (no different than in golf or any other sport) at the end of the day it seems to me that as much of the "most accurate" or "most winning" barrels out there come down to the guy driving the rifle and some luck/timing as anything else. When you see the precision that modern barrel making equipment is capable of performing its kind of hard to believe one top maker is "better" than any of the others. The guy running the machine of course comes into play with tooling wear ect.
 
Of course the shooter is paramount, but have you read Dr. Kolbe's article or spoken to JC or others that know about barrel making?
 
I had 3 cut rifle barrels ( of one of the most popular brands ) chambered for the Shamrock last weekend ,of those the first 2 were not good enough to compete with anywhere, we ran out of time to test the third one and we ended up screwing on a good but tired barrel from last years IBS Nats , I have also had the same scenario with button barrels from time to time. Does that mean they are bad ? Not at all I could have chambered a winner right out of the gate and this conversation would be much different , as I said both cut and button barrels can be made to be competitive if they are done correctly,there are so many variables in both processes that it really comes down to the steel and the guy on the machine
 
I haven't read the articles but will check them out tonight. I always laugh when guys spend so much time going on about barrels, as far as I understand it "real" competitors often buy a pile of barrels cull with a borescope, then chamber the remainder and cull from there in hopes of finding their hummer for the season. Majority of those culls will outshoot 99% of people who have them spun on an action. Like posted previously, the way I see it it's not about wallet groups it's about the agg shoot 5 groups, 10 groups see what happens.
 
Robmcleod82 said:
I haven't read the articles but will check them out tonight. I always laugh when guys spend so much time going on about barrels, as far as I understand it "real" competitors often buy a pile of barrels cull with a borescope, then chamber the remainder and cull from there in hopes of finding their hummer for the season. Majority of those culls will outshoot 99% of people who have them spun on an action. Like posted previously, the way I see it it's not about wallet groups it's about the agg shoot 5 groups, 10 groups see what happens.
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That is a correct , hence the statement most could not tell the difference between cut and button
 
Long rifle. .I'm sure you'll be very pleased with your new barrel ...

As for the cut rifle/ button rifle accuracy debate. ..take Hart barrels for example , theyre button rifled....they've been around a long time and set many records by shooting smaller groups than most of us are capable of shooting...

So you'd better have all your ducks in a row before stating that a Hart barrel is just not competitive..lol..
 
Harts have not set any records for years and close to if not all records in BR and FClass are now held by cut-rifled barrels and they win 100-1!

Why we persist on this point of view is first, this is a target and precision rifle forum. Secondly, we deal with the best FClass shooters in Canada and many BR shooters and we know what they use. We sell cut-rifles and the highest level of button rifled barrels and in any case, quality control involves statistics with large samples and this is our experience over many years.

Best regards,

Peter
 
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