Im seriously considering ordering a Early Hawken Fullstock Flintlock Kit from them. I dont know much about them compared to Track of The Wolf (sold out). Has anyone here ordered one of their kits before ? How was the purchase experience?
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Their kits come from Pecatonia Longrifle Supply .Personally I would buy from Pecatonia as I ve heard good things about them and that way you cut out the middleman.If I was going to build a kit I would go with one of the Jim Kibler kits as they are top notch though they don t currently have a hawken kit available
I've built 2 parts sets from Pecatonica. They are quick with shipping, had parts in stock and I was quite happy with the fitment of the parts.
I agree with the previous comments. Pecatonica is a good company to deal with however I would not recommend their Hawken fullstock, not enough wood in the butt and the lines are wrong. Not enough wood in the right places to build a nice looking Hawken. If you have limited experience Kibler would be my first choice, then Chambers. Good luck whichever one you chose. I have assembled several from all of these companies and am willing to share my experiences if you like . Wayne.
Are u fellas talking from more of a historically accurate standpoint ? Or is it actually defective and or problematic to shoulder and shoot ? Im looking for more of a shooter then a historical piece.
Historically no two Hawkens were alike, I have handled six originals and they all had slight differences, they were mostly custom built for individual customers. The problem with the Pecatonica stock as I explained to John at TOW is that this stock was patterned after a gun built back in the 70's when many of us were building Hawken rifles and didn't have much information to go by. I'm sure the builder did the best he could at the time but now it's time to find a better pattern. The other stock that TOW offered was o.k. but I don't know who made it. The last stock which I handled [ customer ordered ] I returned to TOW and used my own wood [see my website for the gun I built]. Besides other minor issues which many would not realize unless compared to a more refined rifle I would had to cut nearly 1/2 in off the toe of the buttplate to fit the wood. As I said earlier Pecatonica are good people and I'm sure they can help you. If it were me I would ask them to do the barrel channel ramrod groove and possibly the lock mortise. TOW has a nice plan if followed will result in a nice looking rifle. As a side note I doubt very much that Jim will have a Hawken later this year, although nearly ready he hasn't started shipping the Woodsrunner rifle and his Fowler is about half done and not lightly ready until next year and as far as I know hasn't yet started development on the Hawken, which will be a 1/2 stock percussion. Anyway enough rambling, good luck with whatever you decide to do. If I can be of any help call me. Wayne.
Ah that explains the two fullstock Hawkens TOW used to have available till late last year. The "Early Hawken" definitely struck me as more traditional with its generously swept down buttstock. And the other Hawken which is still listed and appears to be what Pecatonica offers does look more modern in comparison. Im just after a high quality shooter that walks the fence between Traditionally accurate and very practical. The Lyman Signature Series Great Plains rifle made by Pedersoli peaked my interest for some time... but considering its cost it seems like my money would go way further building one of these high quality flintlock kits like what TOW, Kibler, Jim Chambers Etc. offers. Plus i could use a nice cheer me up project this fall for when bill C21 passes haha
The kibler kits are probably the best on the market for beginners especially if they want to turn out a high quality product on their first try.Unfortunately though the selection of models is currently limited to longrifles (though newer models are coming)but I can see Kibler eventually being the premiere rifle kit builder with a nice selection of models to choose from.Personally I like to see him make a nice English half stock flint rifle or maybe a first model brown bess
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If you don't have your heart set on a Hawken I would seriously thing about Kiblers new Woodsrunner kit, with its 39 3/4 in swamped barrel and around 8 lb.it will be lighter and IMHO will handle better than a Hawken rifle. Have one on order since I first heard about it, hopefully soon. Will let you all know what I think when it arrives.
