John Deere Pellet Rifle

leonardj said:
That rifle is around '70s vintage, and of Chinese origin. It should have markings to that effect somewhere on the gun. I have the identical gun, but mine is marked "Pioneer", and I have seen others, most likely from the same factory with "Dog", "Wolf", "Eagle", and a plethora of other markings on them. I'm not sure if your rifle has any relationship to the more current "Fast Deer" guns that Father alludes to, but that trademark does bear some resemblance.

Not unlike the German made Mayer & Grammelspacher guns of the same time period, which were sold under various brand names - "Original", "Diana", "Gecado", "Geco", and "Condor" to name a few.
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leonardj,

Thanks for your reply.

Your stated time frame would be about right. I have had this gun completely disassembled over the years and, other than the logo on the stock, there is absolutely no other markings on the gun. There isn't even a model number. Where have you seen a marking on your gun?

I will search the names supplied by you and father and see what shows up.

Wheelgunner
 
the barrel seal should be indeed leather as well- you could probably make one from a piece of scrap , but if it shoots i wouldn't bother- it was not unusual to see a cloud of oil discharge from the chamber area when you pulled the trigger-even on NEW guns- it doesn't have to be fancy either- that's probably COWHIDE that was in there- ie a COWHIDE washer- if i remember correctly, it didn't even compress when you closed the action, that's how good the seal was( sarcasism)
 
Chinese. See the Chinese charachters on either side of the 'deer'. Cheap. Not worth putting a bunch of effort into.

Fill yer boots, if you feel the need, though. You can put $50 worth of parts into it, and it's still a $20 pellet gun.

Lots of info online on making a new cup seal out of a scrap of leather. Springs can be bought mailorder, and will cost more for postage than they do. Make a spring compressor of some sort and save on the facial scars.
Nothing complicated about these guns except maybe to get them back together with a fresh spring, without hurting yourself.
Best chance is that all the trigger components are stamped, crude, and soft, thus, relatively immune to efforts towards improving the feel for more than the first few shots.

Cheers
Trev
 
t-star said:
the barrel seal should be indeed leather as well- you could probably make one from a piece of scrap , but if it shoots i wouldn't bother- it was not unusual to see a cloud of oil discharge from the chamber area when you pulled the trigger-even on NEW guns- it doesn't have to be fancy either- that's probably COWHIDE that was in there- ie a COWHIDE washer- if i remember correctly, it didn't even compress when you closed the action, that's how good the seal was( sarcasism)
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t-star,

Thanks for your reply and for confirming that the seal is leather.

Yes, you are correct. When the gun is fired, even when it was new, there is a cloud of oil that can be seen at the hinge joint.

Wheelgunner
 
trevj said:
Chinese. See the Chinese charachters on either side of the 'deer'. Cheap. Not worth putting a bunch of effort into.

Fill yer boots, if you feel the need, though. You can put $50 worth of parts into it, and it's still a $20 pellet gun.

Lots of info online on making a new cup seal out of a scrap of leather. Springs can be bought mailorder, and will cost more for postage than they do. Make a spring compressor of some sort and save on the facial scars.
Nothing complicated about these guns except maybe to get them back together with a fresh spring, without hurting yourself.
Best chance is that all the trigger components are stamped, crude, and soft, thus, relatively immune to efforts towards improving the feel for more than the first few shots.

Cheers
Trev
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trevj,

Thanks for replying and supplying information.

Yes, I can see that it isn't worth putting much effort into refreshing this gun.

A third hand would definitely come in handy when reassembling one of these things.

Wheelgunner
 
When I was a teenager, I had one that looked similar (not the deer logo, but the general design), but was made in Czechoslovakia. I got it on a trade because the seal was blown. I made a new one from a thick leather jean patch from some Levi's or Lee's, and it lasted for years.
 
Grizzlypeg said:
When I was a teenager, I had one that looked similar (not the deer logo, but the general design), but was made in Czechoslovakia. I got it on a trade because the seal was blown. I made a new one from a thick leather jean patch from some Levi's or Lee's, and it lasted for years.
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Grizzlypeg,

Thanks for your reply.

That is some good to know information.

Wheelgunner
 
Wheelgunner said:
leonardj,

Thanks for your reply.

Your stated time frame would be about right. I have had this gun completely disassembled over the years and, other than the logo on the stock, there is absolutely no other markings on the gun. There isn't even a model number. Where have you seen a marking on your gun?

I will search the names supplied by you and father and see what shows up.

Wheelgunner
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The markings on my version are located just ahead of the rear end cap. The logo is essentially a circle, with the word "Pioneer" in the center. The words "Made in China" directly below the logo, in much smaller print. No model number, or serial number.
 
leonardj said:
The markings on my version are located just ahead of the rear end cap. The logo is essentially a circle, with the word "Pioneer" in the center. The words "Made in China" directly below the logo, in much smaller print. No model number, or serial number.
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leonardj,

Thanks for the information. I'm certain that there are no markings there, but I will take another look.

Wheelgunner
 
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