Johnson M1941 semiautomatic rifle

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Just thought I would start a Post on this rifle. I didn't know it existed till today. Seems like a very interesting piece of history that had a small mark on the 2nd world war.


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**Johnson M1941 semiautomatic rifle
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** Close-up view on the receiver and magazine of M1941. Note the horizontal loading gate with stripper clip guides, located between the magazine and the bolt handle / ejection slot.
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** Schematic drawing of the M1941 rotary magazine, from Johnson's patent
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Caliber: .30-06 (7.62x63mm)
Action: short recoil operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 1156 mm
Barrel length: 558 mm
Weight: 4.3 kg empty
Magazine capacity: 10 rounds



Melvin C. Johnson, an American arms designer, developed his semiautomatic rifle by the mid-1938, and submitted it to the US Army trials. Trials and development of the rifle continued until the early 1940, when the Army Ordnance Board finally rejected the Johnson rifle as being too long and heavy, and potentially unreliable with the bayonet attached. Same year Johnson submitted his rifle for trials to the US Marine Corps, where it was tested against M1 Garand rifle. First tests results were good for Johnson, but later on the M1 Garand rifle was found superior to it. In 1941 Johnson named his rifle as "Model 1941", and the same year the Dutch Government ordered 70 000 rifles from Johnson for its West India colonies, fearing invasion from Japan. For this order Johnson created the Johnson Automatics Mfg plant. At about the same time USMC parachutists forces became interested in Johnson rifle, as it was easy to take down for compact carry during parachute drop, and then easy and quick to reassembly. As the Dutch colonies were already occupied by Japan, USMC procured many of M1941 rifles, made to Dutch order. Compared to M1 Garand, M1941 Johnson rifle had some good and some bad features. Good features were good accuracy, lesser recoil, and bigger magazine capacity with capability for reloading partially full magazine with loose cartridges. Bad features were a number of smaller parts which were easily lost during field stripping, and less available spare parts. Overall, about 30 000 of M1941 rifles were produced during the WW2. After the war, USMC returned all remaining rifles to the Netherlands Purchasing Commission.

Johnson M1941 is a short recoil operated, semiautomatic rifle. Barrel is locked by the rotating bolt with eight locking lugs, engaging into the barrel extension. On recoil stroke, bolt head is rotated to disengage from the barrel, and then barrel is stopped and returned into forward position with its own spring; bolt continues its way back to extract and eject the spent cartridge case and then to chamber fresh cartridge on its way forward. Return spring is located in the butt stock. The rifle is fed from fixed rotary magazine, which holds 10 cartridges. Cartridges can be loaded into the magazine via the loading port in the magazine at the right side of the gun, using the standard M1903-type stripper clips (2 clips with 5 rounds each) or loose rounds. Magazine can be refilled at any time either with the bolt open or closed. Magazine loading port is closed by the spring-loaded dust cover. It must be noted that pre-war Johnson rifles were available either with rotary or box magazines, but box magazine versions apparently are very scarce, as very few of these were produced. Rifle is fitted with two-piece wooden stock, steel hand guards were integral to the receiver. Military rifles were equipped with proprietary detachable lightweight spike-shaped bayonets, as the standard knife bayonets were too heavy and affected the reliability of a recoil-operated mechanism. These bayonets had no separate "handle" and were hardly useful and provided only to fulfill military requirements.
 
Pity bubba got ahold of the top one. The Johnson is fairly well covered in Hatcher's Notebook and Hatcher's Book of the Garand. Politics, not the rifle, got it tested by the U.S. Ordnance Dept. Found not to be better than the Garand, so it wasn't adopted. The U.S.M.C. used a few. Holland ordered a bunch but they didn't get shipped before the German invasion.
Can't say as I've ever seen a Johnson in decent condition. At least not decent enough for me to buy. Probably should have. Friggin' things are worth a big pile of money these days.
 
"...after your ammo is gone..." Not really a big deal if you have a box of ammo handy. They can be loaded with single cartridges. No clips like the M1.
 
That thing is ugly buy extremely interesting. I would buy it just because it is unique. I have a bunch of unique guns. Not necessarily milsurp but I bought them because there is little of them around.
 
Melvin Johnson also designed the M1941 LMG, which was also recoil operated and shared some parts commonality with the rifle. This LMG was used by both the USMC and the Canadian-American Special Service Force on a limited basis. In his later years he also developed a 5.56mm/.223 variant of the M1 Carbine called the "Spitfire". The ctg was a necked down .30 Carbine.
 
Anyone remember "The Outdoor Stores"? Back in the 1970s I remember seeing Johnsons in their catalogs for about the same as Lee Enfields. Stuff I've read on this board suggests that most of the Johnsons sold were pretty beat up, missing parts, etc.
 
Get a Garand!

I have seen a whole bunch of these over the years and can honestly say I have never seen one that looked even in remotely reasonable condition?

Where they all ridden hard and put away wet?
 
Way back when I had one that had an excellent bore, 80%-85% metal and wood finish but had a small crack in the stock behind the receiver. As I recall I paid around $225.00 for it (mid 1970's) and later traded it for an excellent condition unit marked WW I Luger.

I remember seeing a few others that were in excellent condition but most were "rode hard and put aeay wet". :)
 
Melvin Johnson also designed the M1941 LMG, which was also recoil operated and shared some parts commonality with the rifle. This LMG was used by both the USMC and the Canadian-American Special Service Force on a limited basis. In his later years he also developed a 5.56mm/.223 variant of the M1 Carbine called the "Spitfire". The ctg was a necked down .30 Carbine.

That wasnt the .256 in the carbine , right?
Purple you always bring up a bit of history that gets the cogs turning. Monte la difensa!:canadaFlag:
I did repair work on a ship for years, off and on here in Halifax known as the, "JD Mitchell". Years later i realized from a book who it was named after and realized he was a local NovaScotian, an officer in the 1SSF(Devils Brigade) and had been awarded the US Silver Star, along with other decorations, during his time in the unit.:)
 
Way back when I had one that had an excellent bore, 80%-85% metal and wood finish but had a small crack in the stock behind the receiver. As I recall I paid around $225.00 for it (mid 1970's) and later traded it for an excellent condition unit marked WW I Luger.

I remember seeing a few others that were in excellent condition but most were "rode hard and put aeay wet". :)

44Bore I remember them in the SIR catalog was it for that price???
 
Many were used by the marines in the Pacific - nothing would come out of there looking nice. Between there and the FSSF, they would all have been ridden hard and put away wet. I think they're awesome, definitely my first gun purchase if I hit the lotto!
 
I had one of these some years ago. We went through a bunch of them in Jeremy's basement putting together a usable one out of several which had apparently come back from Indonesia. The trigger pull was rather poor and varied according to how tight the screws were holding it into the stock (which tended to loosen). There were numerous small parts, some of which it could be reassembled without. Shape of the trigger was ergonomically poor, making your finger hurt with repeated use. They made the right choice.
 
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