JP Sauer Royale 20ga

jaegermeister1 said:
Canvasback and VictoryXC:

Another poster asked why the sling loops; thus relevance.

I've hunted in Britain and Germany. Gun safety and gun culture are quite different abroad.

In my neck of the woods here in Northern Alberta, the concept of "a sporting chance" is unheard-of. the incident in my story happened out front of my driveway. The number of road hunters is very problematic. What is crass and in poor taste is the number of people who go afield each year and cut fence lines, wound game, poach, leave garbage about and generally cause mayhem.

Now take a moment and put your indignity aside and think about how many hunters you've come across who fit my description. Then tell me how that compares to your experiences of hunting abroad.

Now lets have no more of this discussion and go back to admiring the op's shotgun.

Kind regards,

Jaegermeister1
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My original comments stand.

I’ve hunted across five Canadian provinces and numerous US states of the Great Plains. Not including waterfowl, I’ve hunted for woodcock, ruffed and spruce grouse, pheasant, Hungarians partridge, sharptail grouse and quail. I’ve also spent time with a real jaegermeister in Germany, south of Ulm in Bavaria, the uncle of a good friend. As I said the first time, while there may be some hunters in NA who behave as you describe, your stereotypes are out of line when you characterize most NA upland hunters as behaving that way. The vast majority I’ve met are interested in both fair chase and gun safety.

I too would like to return to simply learning about and admiring fine doubles. But a comment about sling swivels doesn’t justify a slanderous misrepresentation of how NA upland hunters behave and I would have been remiss if I had not called it out.
 
My Dear canvasback:

You take umbrage sir where there is none to be had. Your list of hunting across North America is great and varied. You obviously don't hunt with the plebeians.

The gentleman I was describing was no gentleman upland hunter. He was a poacher shooting from his car. Illegal in our parts.

Or do you take umbrage with my diatribe because somehow you feel I am talking about you?

My comment was about sling loops and poachers who have no need of said loops. Why do you take offence?

With the greatest respect,

Jaegermeister1
 
jaegermeister1 said:
...... Or as I've seen in the more rural areas of Alberta, the old fellow stops his car on a dirt road, sticks the barrel of his shotgun out the window, murders some poor hapless grouse on the side of the road looking for grist for his craw. The shooter's very corpulent wife then exits the passenger side of the vehicles and waddles over to what's left of the grouse, waddles back to the car and with the grace and elegance befitting the scene, hurls the grouse into the back of the car and squeezes herself back into the front seat. The car then proceeds down the road at a crawl looking for its next intended victim.......
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jaegermeister1 said:
Canvasback and VictoryXC:

Another poster asked why the sling loops; thus relevance.

I've hunted in Britain and Germany. Gun safety and gun culture are quite different abroad.

In my neck of the woods here in Northern Alberta, the concept of "a sporting chance" is unheard-of. the incident in my story happened out front of my driveway. The number of road hunters is very problematic. What is crass and in poor taste is the number of people who go afield each year and cut fence lines, wound game, poach, leave garbage about and generally cause mayhem.

Now take a moment and put your indignity aside and think about how many hunters you've come across who fit my description. Then tell me how that compares to your experiences of hunting abroad.

Now lets have no more of this discussion and go back to admiring the op's shotgun.

Kind regards,

Jaegermeister1
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Do not try to sweep your disparaging comments aside so quickly. Read what you wrote. Your derogatory comments had absolutely no relevance to sling swivels. I stand by my previous post that they were crass and in poor taste and quite simply, wrong. As a hunter, and firearm owner, you should no better than to categorize others in a negative manner.
 
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LOL:

I can't take it anymore.

Guys, I'm having some fun with you. I'm sorry if you are taking it personal. That is not my intent. If any of you have watched the red green show, you will know what I'm talking about. A bit of humour mixed in with some truth.

The sling loop comment is legit. The poacher on my country road is legit. I have hunted with some crackerjack people here in Alberta but, we also have our good share of of not so crackerjack people. Your experience may be different in Ontario.

As I've said previously, the attitude in Germany and Britain is different because the shooting sports are open to the wealthy. Not the average joe looking to fill the pot. Consequently you are dealing with a different class of people. Sorry if this offends you.

This will be the end off it for me because I've lost interest. But do continue on if you so wish.

Time for a wee dram of Talisker.

Tally Ho and off we go, old boy.

Kind regards,

Jaegermeister1
 
jaegermeister1 said:
German guns have sling loops so when walking about from stand to stand or coming in or going out of the field, the gun would be broken and hanging from the sling on your shoulder with barrels facing forward. This allows for the barrels to be pointed skyward and the empty chambers pointed to the ground. Very practical in a group setting.

The English typically will have their guns transported to their shooting peg and will be handed their gun(s). Same for moving between pegs.

We here in North America sling our loaded guns over our shoulder and let fly the moment we step into the field. Or as I've seen in the more rural areas of Alberta, the old fellow stops his car on a dirt road, sticks the barrel of his shotgun out the window, murders some poor hapless grouse on the side of the road looking for grist for his craw. The shooter's very corpulent wife then exits the passenger side of the vehicles and waddles over to what's left of the grouse, waddles back to the car and with the grace and elegance befitting the scene, hurls the grouse into the back of the car and squeezes herself back into the front seat. The car then proceeds down the road at a crawl looking for its next intended victim.

So, more of a German thing. Since having experienced this method of carry for doubles, I prefer it. Very comfortable and very safe. And it falls into the category of a sporting chance for the birds.

Kind regards,

Jaegermeister1
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You resurrected a 3 year old post for this nonsense? Maybe you should lay off the Talisker....
 
Not at all, even though the same could be said of you. It just seems weird for someone with a low post count to seek out a 3 year old thread and post an arrogant reply to it, then say they've lost interest in the conversation so tally ho and off we go for more whisky!

Kind regards!
 
Kinda along the “sling on a shotgun” theme...I am a fan, although it took awhile for me to come around to them. (Same for cheekpieces)....anyway.

I have noticed the Germans sling them as Jagermeister described. Open with the barrels up. It just seems to me like that puts stress on the hinge and I would be afraid of making the gun loose. I understand the safety aspect of the carry mode, it just seems like it could damage the gun.
 
No stress on the hinee pin at all. I carry it barrel forward with the barrel close to the shoulder. This puts little to no sling pressure on the stock and it just hangs.

Kind regards,

Max
 
I think most serious upland gunners carry the gun at the ready. BUT after a long day with still a few more miles to the truck a sling is nice. Also the sling is a help if for some reason you need both hands i.e. carry an injured dog or whatever. The sling does nothing for enhancing the fine lines of an upland gun though.

Darryl
 
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