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Nyles

Nyles

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Starting things off on time this month!

Although its not really a milsurp, I just picked up this very nice Winchester 1895 carbine in .30-40 Krag made in 1915, which I got a screaming deal on at $400. I justify posting it in the milsurp section because they WERE widely used in the Mexican revolution (look at this link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/trialsanderrors/2793219998/ ), which this one is appropriately dated for! They were also purchased by Teddy Roosevelt for the officers of the Rough Riders, but of course this would have been made much too late for that.

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Nyles said:
Starting things off on time this month!

Although its not really a milsurp, I just picked up this very nice Winchester 1895 carbine in .30-40 Krag made in 1915, which I got a screaming deal on at $400. I justify posting it in the milsurp section because they WERE widely used in the Mexican revolution (look at this link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/trialsanderrors/2793219998/ ), which this one is appropriately dated for! They were also purchased by Teddy Roosevelt for the officers of the Rough Riders, but of course this would have been made much too late for that.

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You stole that '95!!! :eek:

The seller's going to be screaming when he realizes what that rifle's really worth. Where do you find these deals? Congrats.
 
1945 Tula SVT-40

Plucked from Jean's inventory at P&S.

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Standard refurb, but a rare year. Only issue is the unfortunate application of European import/export markings on the top of the receiver along with the year stamp and Tula markings. :mad:
 
Nice score Nyles.

Is the bore any good??? It's in nice shape on the outside.

Coming from me, that is mighty praise. I'm not much on lever action rifles and I don't even own one. I've always had a soft spot for the 95 Winchester though. It has such graceful lines.

I can remember when I was about 10 years old, 1961, Marshall Wells Store had a bunch of those in their front window. They were all beat to hell and had rough bores but the design is just a classic thing of beauty.

I remember reading the barrel stamps stating that they were 30 Government and a marshall stamp, US, on the top of the buttstock.

They had 30 rifles altogether and the store clerk was giveing away 40 round cartons of ammunition with each rifle, which were selling for the high price of $20. In 1961, that was a lot of money. It would buy two weeks of groceries for a family of four.

My memory is a bit faded on those rifles, other than the big sign in the window, stating that the rifles were chambered in 303 British. That clerk, felt the 30-40 rounds looked like the 303 Brit so it must be a 303 Brit.

I do remember the rifles were all gone in less than a week. Interesting, you could buy a surplus No1 MkIII for $5 or a No4 for $6.50 complete with a 48 round box of cartridges.
 
When I got it the bore was pretty nasty, but after running a bore snake through it, it came out frosted but very shootable. Apparently the previous owner last shot it 10 years ago and didn't clean it. Interestingly, this one is just marked 30 above the chamber - nothing to designate it as .30-40, .30-06 or .30-03 (although I'm unsure if they were still making them in .30-03 by 1915). I suppose if I took off the handguard there might be something on the barrel.

As for where I'm finding these deals, well.... trade secret. ;)

Just for fun, both my Winchester 95s:

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Nyles said:
When I got it the bore was pretty nasty, but after running a bore snake through it, it came out frosted but very shootable. Apparently the previous owner last shot it 10 years ago and didn't clean it. Interestingly, this one is just marked 30 above the chamber - nothing to designate it as .30-40, .30-06 or .30-03 (although I'm unsure if they were still making them in .30-03 by 1915). I suppose if I took off the handguard there might be something on the barrel.

As for where I'm finding these deals, well.... trade secret. ;)

Just for fun, both my Winchester 95s:

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Those are beauts!! Would look real nice next to my .303 '95. If your safe gets to overcrowding, I can help you out and take 'em off your hands. ;)
 
Nyles said:
When I got it the bore was pretty nasty, but after running a bore snake through it, it came out frosted but very shootable. Apparently the previous owner last shot it 10 years ago and didn't clean it. Interestingly, this one is just marked 30 above the chamber - nothing to designate it as .30-40, .30-06 or .30-03 (although I'm unsure if they were still making them in .30-03 by 1915). I suppose if I took off the handguard there might be something on the barrel.

As for where I'm finding these deals, well.... trade secret. ;)

Just for fun, both my Winchester 95s:

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Many thanks, this is the first really good picture I've seen of a Winchester 1895 musket. I think you need to take some more photos for Milsurp.com though. Their knowledge library is missing an entry for the 1895. (I think Claven2 is the guy to talk to?)

I hadn't realized that the full-length wood was only under the barrel though. I had always thought it full length handguards like Mosins.
 
Nice Nagant, though I personally suspect those are not the original grips. An original 1915 should have walnut fine-checkered grips, not coarse-checkered birch grips which are characteristic of post-1930 production and refurbs of earlier revolvers.
 
Claven2 said:
Nice Nagant, though I personally suspect those are not the original grips. An original 1915 should have walnut fine-checkered grips, not coarse-checkered birch grips which are characteristic of post-1930 production and refurbs of earlier revolvers.
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I thought so too and even started a debate on the Russian gun forum...and there was no conclusion. The fact is that gun is all original and inside of the side plate it looks so untouched, no marring on screws and grips perfectly fit to the gun makes me think that they are original to the gun. Here are the pics of it compare to my 1939 Nagant(on the right) with coarsely checkered grips...
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Interesting. The checkering is finer on yours than on the '39, but is also a good bit coarser still than the (very few) non-refurb WW1 era grips I've seen on other guns.

Maybe a mfgr variant?
 
Would the checkering style reflect the concept that the double action Nagants were issued to officers and the single action Nagants were issued to the other ranks ?
I believe this was the concept when the pistol was adopted.
 
sail32 said:
Would the checkering style reflect the concept that the double action Nagants were issued to officers and the single action Nagants were issued to the other ranks ?
I believe this was the concept when the pistol was adopted.
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I have made the same assumption on the Russian forum, but they didn't see such a pattern...I think you are correct.
 
Paid on Friday picked up today, M44, with Bayo removed, originally thought it was an M38 till i got it home, but im still happy with it. The rest of the Family included with it.

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WWI era USGI M1912 Pistol Belt & Rig

Just recently scored this "nice condition for it's age" WW1 era Model 1912 pistol belt & rig.

Belt is LCC & Co mfg 1918 dated [so faded on reverse wouldn't photograph]:

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Boyt 1917 mfg M1916 holster:

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LCC & Co mfg 1918 magazine pouch:

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Long mfg 1917 canteen cover with LF & C mfg 1918 canteen:

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R.I.A. mfg 1918 first aid pouch:

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Goes well with my 1917 mfg Colt 1911 USGI .45 ACP:

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