June Purchases

Yes these rifles are definitely Indian captured and rebuilt rifles, even have a few that have early MKI cocking piece that POF never manufactured.
 
I'll take a kick at answering that question.

cantom said:
First good pics I've seen of a POF made rifle. Interesting that it's a No 4 Mk 2, which I had thought were only made by the Brits.

Pakistan purchased tooling from BSA and produced the No4Mk1
Pakistan also purchased tooling from Fazakerly and produced the No4Mk2

The made both models but on different tooling

Somehow the Indian and Pakistani rifles always have an aura of grunginess about them...that's my chief complaint about them.

Agreed

I wonder if the Pakistanis or the Indians put the Ishy screw in?
The Indians did that. This is an Indian capture of a Pakistan made enfield. They would have embedded the ishy screw internally and re-issued it to their troops at some point. The rifle was probably captured in Kashmir during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965.Pakistan suffered much heavier material and personnel casualties compared to India. Many war historians believe that had the war continued, with growing loss and decreasing supplies, Pakistan would have been eventually defeated. India's decision to declare ceasefire with Pakistan caused some outrage among the Indian populace, who believed they had the upper hand.
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Riflechair said:
HI CANTOM
THESE PICS ARE WITH THE RIFLE IN AN UNCLEANED CONDITION.

Very greasy and cosmo coverage is sporatic.
I'll post a few more after a proper cleaning and BBQ treatment.

The rifle is built on Fazakerly Tooling in Pakistan's Wah Cantt District. This area is now a military complex of 14 factories producing everything from small to large ordnance.

Type 'Wah Cantt' into Google Earth and see where it takes you.
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I've read posts from people like LouPou, who is very good at cleaning up various grades of older stocks...something like Circa 1857 stripper or something along those lines??
I have noticed that your rifles usually just gleam with beautiful wood Riflechair...it'll be interesting to see cleaned up!

I suppose one could say that leaving it in it's current cosmetic condition would be correct...:D
 
cantom said:
I've read posts from people like LouPou, who is very good at cleaning up various grades of older stocks...something like Circa 1857 stripper or something along those lines??
I have noticed that your rifles usually just gleam with beautiful wood Riflechair...it'll be interesting to see cleaned up!

I suppose one could say that leaving it in it's current cosmetic condition would be correct...:D
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Thanks Cantom :)

When I get some cosmo-covered stocks, I clean with mineral spirits - as I know there won't be anything else but cosmoline, dirt, and grime coming off. It takes longer than putting the stocks in the dishwasher... but I won't try that shortcut!

the stripper is for stripping the wood for a complete refinishing job - I use that on rough looking drill purpose wood when rebuilding a Bubba'ed rifle. Works great but nasty on the skin... I have learned to use latex gloves now (sometimes it's good to follow instructions I guess!)
 
We'll be posting this as a formal Knowledge Library entry as soon as I can con Lance into writing up a few paragraphs of observations....

1942 No.4 Mk1*(T) Savage
(Mfg under Lend Lease Act by Savage in 1942)
(Converted to sniper configuration "less scope" by Holland and Holland)


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Regards,
Badger
 
Pakistani POF N0.4 MKII rifles, I went through my Inventory and found rifles dated from 1957 to 1963 and one Enfield No. 9 bayonet, manufactured by POF in Pakistan, dated 1965. I do not have Skennerton's new book and wonder if he has any manufacture dates for these rifles.
 
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Well I do have Skennerton's new books and on pg 371 he refers to POF No4mk2 production from the Wah Cantt as being noted from 1958 to 1960 with possble production well into the 1960's.

I'm glad I'm giving one of these a home :)
 
sorry to interupt the enfield chit chat but...

I can finally post here after almost a year of unsuccessful milsurp hunting. I've tracked down something I've wanted for a while. Big thanks to desporterizer for hooking this one up, awesome guy! Best of all its got a mirror bore, only downside is the trigger isnt a sweet as it is on my early one.


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Also picked up the two LB's that are up for trade in the exchange right now but this is much cooler :D
 
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Well since the "real" Springfield 22's are almost non-existent, I was happy to get this one converted to .22 from a blown-up rifle (no Springfields were hurt in the making of this rifle, just one that was already broken). It extracts and ejects. Real professional job. 1918 Manufacture.

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southsaskscotty said:
This showed up this month. Quite excited about this and another SSR piece (that has not yet arrived) for June!

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A real Good find and in good condition at that!

Brings to mind what a friend sent me years ago. Overcoat and hat of General Forbes-Adams.
Commander of the Royal Artillery, second in command at Dunkirk.
His wife sent his dress uniforms to the IWM but the Khaki hat and overcoat were rescued from a burning rubbish tip! apparently she didn't think they were worth saving:rolleyes:
 
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