Jungle Carbine value

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I'm looking into a trade for a Jungle Carbine, from what I've been told it's a N04 action and the rest Jungle Carbine parts. What would it be worth roughly, sorry for the lack of pictures I'll post them when he sends them.

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Rebel
 
Hmm so it's a dressed up no 4?
It seems the originals are running in the 350-600 area in decent untouched shape. A no 4 dressed up is probably not worth much at all... No historic value and not very nice shooters.
My .02
 
Did they come with the bolt having the correct lightening groove in the main raceway lug but not a hollow bolt handle?
Everything else is kosher on one I have but for the not hollowed out bolt handle.
The link above (thank you for that link btw) states that all true ones have the hollow bolt handle.
 
no serial number at all
I do guess that the bolt is not original to the rifle --- its just strange to have the hollowed out raceway lug witout the handle. The hollowed out lug looks clean and factory - not like someone milled out the channel.
I know it is not the most pressing issue of our times, but curious..
 
Not all JCs had hollowed out bolt handles. This is referenced in Ian Skennerton book "The Lee Enfield". I hav seen a few JCs that are original that did not have this feature but were original. I recall that one was an early 1944 production run.
 
Rugerboy said:
Not all JCs had hollowed out bolt handles. This is referenced in Ian Skennerton book "The Lee Enfield". I hav seen a few JCs that are original that did not have this feature but were original. I recall that one was an early 1944 production run.
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And the hollowed out knob on the bolt handle wasn't part of the specification for the No.4 rifle, but once that feature was introduced for the No.5 rifle, some No.4s came from the factories with those bolts, too.
 
shortandlong said:
Pull the stock off and look At the receiver , you can tell
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You don't need to pull the stock off to see the lightening cut on the receiver, it's the left side between the rear sight and the charger bridge. On a number four that is a straight vertical wall, on a No.5 it's been milled off at an angle. The upper handguard has to be removed to see the lightening cuts on the knox form on a No.5 barrel.
 
OMG Don't remove the flash hidder. Way to difficult and unnecessary. Follow the hints already given, ie look under hand guard at barrel by receiver, check out receiver, remember google is your friend (sometimes)
 
Bendeco said:
Remove the muzzle flash hidder :onCrack: and if the barrel is stepped :redface: then it's a real no. 5
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Here is some real expert advice, which you better forget immediately


DON"T DO IT!!!!!

To verify, you might want to remove the top hand guard, then you should see the fluted weight saving cuts on the barrel shank, typical for a Jungle Carbine.
The trigger guard should have a weight saving (skeletonised) cut as well, and the bolt handle should be hollowed.
Lastly the rear sight should be graduated up to 800 meters/yards, not 1300 as on the #4s.
 
polaris said:
Here is some real expert advice, which you better forget immediately


DON"T DO IT!!!!!

To verify, you might want to remove the top hand guard, then you should see the fluted weight saving cuts on the barrel shank, typical for a Jungle Carbine.
The trigger guard should have a weight saving (skeletonised) cut as well, and the bolt handle should be hollowed.
Lastly the rear sight should be graduated up to 800 meters/yards, not 1300 as on the #4s.
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Sorry for pointing out a genuine feature of a real no. 5 Jungle Carbine. Not sure what your problem is with pointing out a feature. you are being rude and that is not acceptable on this forum.
 
Bendeco said:
Sorry for pointing out a genuine feature of a real no. 5 Jungle Carbine. Not sure what your problem is with pointing out a feature. you are being rude and that is not acceptable on this forum.
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Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln

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Bendeco said:
Sorry for pointing out a genuine feature of a real no. 5 Jungle Carbine. Not sure what your problem is with pointing out a feature. you are being rude and that is not acceptable on this forum.
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It's because removing the flash hider off a no5 is freeking hard to do and require specialized tool and knowledge. The lightening cut on receiver and barrel Are easy to spot and require minimal disassembly (just remove barrel band and top hanguard). Have you ever removed a flash hider from an original no5mk1?
 
FAQMAT said:
It's because removing the flash hider off a no5 is freeking hard to do and require specialized tool and knowledge. The lightening cut on receiver and barrel Are easy to spot and require minimal disassembly (just remove barrel band and top hanguard). Have you ever removed a flash hider from an original no5mk1?
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Yes I have. Popped out the pins and gave it a little heat with a plumbing blow torch. Knocked it off with a hammer. Bubba cut the cone off and the sight just had the cylinder part left. So I installed a new one.
 
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