Jungle Carbine Velocities

[tacfoley]

Definitely THE post on how to win friends and influence people.

Not a single word of thanks, just a general kick up the ass for all of us.

~7000 posts and you seem, Sir, to have learned nothing on how to deal with the people at the other end of your posts on the internet.

tac

 

[B]

Yes you are right, thanks to Ganderite and sgt. rock I really do appreciate the responses. As for the rest of you feel free to kiss my ass. This is exactly the kind of nonsense I expect from this place these days and exactly why I choose to respond how I do.

 

[Ganderite]

I was looking for information from members, if I wanted answers from Google I wouldn't have bothered asking here. The funny thing is I actually did Google it and didn't find much. I'm just ignorant though don't mind me. If you think my response was rude maybe the Internet isn't for you. I'll get off my ass and buy another chrony and post the results. I'd hate for some other guy to ask the same question and have to wade through all of this to get answers from two people.

You did not frame a question that could be answered.

If you had asked "What velocity can I expect with milsurp ammo?" or "... with 180 gr factory soft point", you would have had lots of answers. Since your question did not mention bullet weight, it did not look like you were looking for specific velocity info.

 

[B]

You did not frame a question that could be answered.

If you had asked "What velocity can I expect with milsurp ammo?" or "... with 180 gr factory soft point", you would have had lots of answers. Since your question did not mention bullet weight, it did not look like you were looking for specific velocity info.

I posted my question in haste for sure. It made sense in my head but not online. Just looking for loads of any kind that members had sent over a chronograph. Just out of pure curiosity. There isn't much online and most of what I found seems to be data for full length rifles as opposed to the carbine. You'd have to push the rifle pretty hard to get 2400fps, which is what some sites claim.

 

[Ganderite]

I posted my question in haste for sure. It made sense in my head but not online. Just looking for loads of any kind that members had sent over a chronograph. Just out of pure curiosity. There isn't much online and most of what I found seems to be data for full length rifles as opposed to the carbine. You'd have to push the rifle pretty hard to get 2400fps, which is what some sites claim.

A 150 gr bullet would do that easily. Maybe 2500 with handloads. My best results are with the Hornady 174 gr Round Nose soft point. It is a flat base bullet and works well in mediocre barrels.

Only my new Irish contract gets best results with the Sierra match bullet.

 

[purple]

It pays to experiment with the heavier 174 and 180 gr bullets in a .303 as the barrel diameters are variable and some are worn more than others. Hornady's 174gr FMJ is .3105 diameter while their 180gr SP is .312. The Speer 180gr SP is .311 while both the Sierra 180gr SP and 174gr Match are .311. Some work better with a flatbase bullet than a boat-tail. I've played around with all of these in a number of Lee-Enfields. My hunting load in my No5JC for the past 45 yrs uses the Speer 180gr SP with IMR4064. It has been a good killer on deer, moose and bear. One thing for sure, the current prices on all of these are pretty eye-popping.

You can also have a lot of fun playing with different propellants with the heavier bullets. All of IMR 4064, 4320, 4895 and 4350 can work well. So can Varget, Re15, H414 or W760 depending on the individual rifle.

 

[B]

A 150 gr bullet would do that easily. Maybe 2500 with handloads. My best results are with the Hornady 174 gr Round Nose soft point. It is a flat base bullet and works well in mediocre barrels.

Only my new Irish contract gets best results with the Sierra match bullet.

My bad, I didn't mention the speed was supposed to be for a 174grn which why I assumed it was for a full length rifle.

 

[B]

It pays to experiment with the heavier 174 and 180 gr bullets in a .303 as the barrel diameters are variable and some are worn more than others. Hornady's 174gr FMJ is .3105 diameter while their 180gr SP is .312. The Speer 180gr SP is .311 while both the Sierra 180gr SP and 174gr Match are .311. Some work better with a flatbase bullet than a boat-tail. I've played around with all of these in a number of Lee-Enfields. My hunting load in my No5JC for the past 45 yrs uses the Speer 180gr SP with IMR4064. It has been a good killer on deer, moose and bear. One thing for sure, the current prices on all of these are pretty eye-popping.

You can also have a lot of fun playing with different propellants with the heavier bullets. All of IMR 4064, 4320, 4895 and 4350 can work well. So can Varget, Re15, H414 or W760 depending on the individual rifle.

I'll start buying some of those powders. The bore on the rifle looks like it's in excellent shape. My grandfather said he paid $75 in a BC gunshop so it's gotta be a pretty old purchase. He took everything from deer to a grizzly with it. Lots of sentimental value with what I was given.

 

[big bear]

Hear! Hear!

OP is too lazy to use google so he comes here to asks a common sense question, you give a solid answer, OP then pisses on that answer and then you come back to contribute further. Ganderite, you Sir are a gentleman.

A gentleman and a scholar. Thanks for the information!

 

[gregc]

OP is too lazy to use google so he comes here to asks a common sense question, you give a solid answer, OP then pisses on that answer and then you come back to contribute further. Ganderite, you Sir are a gentleman (and a scholar) .

and shows a lot of class~