Jungle Carbine

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Here is my three Jungle Carbine:
1944 ROF (F) with Ishapore screw
1945 BSA
1946 ROF (F)

On the BSA 1945 there is an MD stamped on the reciever, what is stand for ? Military Division ?

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Is there anyway to tell where a LE served in combat or if it was just in storage? Or any rifle for that matter. Would be nice to know if these rifles just sat in a crate during the war or were used to defend.
 
That's a good question...wear and tear would indicate that she was issued, as far as wartime service I don't really know...Nice rifles btw. ...on my list of adding to the junk pile..
 
I have no experience shooting a Jungle Carbine and am curious if there is any truth to all that stuff I see written again and again about the legendary "wandering zero" inaccuracy of the Jungle Carbine. How do they really shoot? Assuming you shoot them. Thanks.
 
the zero didn't wander, but I did!

The one's I've had held their zero nicely. But those rock hard tiny butt pads tended to make me wonder about the wisdom of shooting them and wander off and shoot something less painful!:d
 
SA85M1 said:
That's a good question...wear and tear would indicate that she was issued, as far as wartime service I don't really know...Nice rifles btw. ...on my list of adding to the junk pile..
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That's hard to say. Even an unissued gun from back in the day can show a lot of non military use if it was used for hunting etc. in the last 50 years. A lot of people who bought these guns back in the day, after the war, didn't give 2 thoughts about them being collectible some day. So while a gun might have indeed been unissued, it can still show a lot of non military use. The wear factor, as far as an unissued indicator, really only holds true if the gun was hardly or maybe never fired. Otherwise the gun could show a fair bit of use but that doesn't necessarily mean it was issued.
 
That's a nice set. I have nearly an identical trio. Not sure about the MD mark, but the scabbard on the bottom bayonet is from a Mauser or maybe a European FN bayonet. The top scabbard is the correct style for the No 5 bayonet (and the No 7 and the No 9, and the L1A1, and the C1A1, and the Sterling).
 
Puma said:
Very nice.

What is an Ishapore screw ?
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It is a screw that the Indian Ishapore factory put through the stock to make it more resistant to splitting. You can see it on one of the rifles on the last page. It is just after the receiver one the first example
 
myenfield said:
That's a nice set. I have nearly an identical trio. Not sure about the MD mark, but the scabbard on the bottom bayonet is from a Mauser or maybe a European FN bayonet. The top scabbard is the correct style for the No 5 bayonet (and the No 7 and the No 9, and the L1A1, and the C1A1, and the Sterling).
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yup ! one of the bayo came with that non correct scabbard. I see those with the round tip for the no9 bayonet on many pics.
Sometime its hard to find is the correct frog for the Jungle bayo
 
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Wandering zero myth.
The government after the war wanted to make the No5 standard issue to everybody. Keep in mind that every other country at the time was going to, or had self loading rifles in service.
I believe the "wandering zero" was a myth generated by the military to get more modern weapons, ie# the L1A1
 
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