Jungle replica project - FINISHED IT...

Great job Lou. I'm in the process of bringing a Jungle Carbine back to original, it was sporterized and bubba'd a bit. I have a question for you. Is the No4 hand guard band the same as the Jungle Carbine band?

Yup, the rear "ring" and the band are No4 parts, no worries there.
 
Ha ha ha!!! Bigdp51, this is what happens when you combine the following ingredients together:

1. Last year's work on the house foundation
2. A very snowy winter
3. Two german shorthaired pointers and one Weimaraner. (sorry, one GSP is missing in this picture...)
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i read gsp and thought you meant Georges St Pierre loll! Nice work btw and Thank you very much for sharing!
 
The No5 and No4 bands are actually quite different. The no4 band is taller and more oval shaped, whereas the no5 is more "stout" if that makes any sense.

? The bands should be the same. To be sure, I just checked the Stratton book and he shows them to be same.
 
Thanks BGCameron. I was trying to put a no4 band but it was not long enough and would not close at the bottom. I was told that it would fit, but it doesn't. Thanks again everyone for the info.
 
Re short or long band: I think the difference isn't No4 vs No5, but stamped vs milled. When a stock and handguards are fitted together on a barreled action, it is expected that the wood will need work before the band can fit. When the stock is new, there is too much wood, so that the band can be fitted tight (by carefully removing a bit of wood, testing the band, and so on, until the perfect fit is found). The difficulty with the milled band is that you can't modify its shape as easily as with the stamped one, so not only do you need to carefully remove wood from the handguards and forend, but you have to pay attention to the shape of the channel you're carving, so it can match the band. Often with used handguards and forend, you can find the band will be loose, and you need to add material so that it can be tight again.

Lou
 
Stratton is wrong I guess.

These arent my pictures because I dont want to take my rifles apart (again) to compare the two.

Not to beat this horse to death but. Skennerton, The Lee Enfield on Canadian trials #5s, pg323 states that the bands are to be interchangeable with #4 mk1*. I assumed that they would have taken that standard from the Brits as it was a very similar copy. I have only worked on a couple of #5s and am by no means an expert. On my present project I am useing a #4 band for my hybrid #5.
But then, my top hand guard is carved from a mauser hand guard :)
 
I went and did a simple measurement of circumference using string. The stamped bands are in fact the same size, although shaped quite differently to fit each rifle.

A milled No4 band would probably not want to fit the No5.

So I guess I was half wrong. Lets just use zap straps from now on to avoid the confusion.
 
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