Just back from the Australian War Museum

Their memorial and museum puts the Canadian Museum to shame. Spent 2 days there wandering around. Looking from their Parliament building, you can see the Memorial. All along the route is statues and dedications to their military member and branches. Very striking. They put a lot of thought into its design.

The memorial and grounds were designed by a WW1 amputee/vet who also oversaw the mosaic in the sepulchre of the tomb of the unknown soldier.

Australia designed the entire city of canberra around the war memorial and the ANZAC parade (think of the Washington mall). Canberra was selected as the site of the future capital in 1911, but most construction happened after 1918 and the layout thusly benefitted.

Here in Canada, Ottawa was built prior to WW1 and was laid out with a different philosophy. There was simply no opportunity to do something like align a WW1 monument with the peace tower.

As for the actual buildings, the Australian memorial was built using cut sandstone and looks majestic. The CWM is all poured concrete, ostensibly to resemble a bunker, but more probably because building in cut stone is prohibitively expensive in the modern era. Canada's museum is actually larger, more square footage, and more stuff on display by a significant margin. The CWM's biggest issue is their curator staff who seem to have no interest in celebrating the Canadian profession of arms and its rich history, nor in accurately describing the artifacts on display.

Every time I go to our CWM, I'm disappointed at how many errors I can point out without even lugging reference materials along. Or how floor space is given over to hosting cocktail parties at the expense of a sensible layout for display vehicles, or how they are more interested in apologizing for bombing the nazis than in pointing out the horror that was the third reich and why it needed to be topped by any means.

Then there's the $17/person fee to even get in the door. The AWM is packed all the time. The CWM, more often than not, is a ghost town.

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When I was at The Military Museum in Ottawa, serving and past armed forces personnel were admitted free.

EVERYONE should be admitted free. This is about honoring our war dead, honoring the ongoing personal sacrifice of everyone in uniform, and public education about the military, its role, and debunking the liberal media myth that peacekeeping can be done without peacemaking.
 
The memorial and grounds were designed by a WW1 amputee/vet who also oversaw the mosaic in the sepulchre of the tomb of the unknown soldier.

Australia designed the entire city of canberra around the war memorial and the ANZAC parade (think of the Washington mall). Canberra was selected as the site of the future capital in 1911, but most construction happened after 1918 and the layout thusly benefitted.

Here in Canada, Ottawa was built prior to WW1 and was laid out with a different philosophy. There was simply no opportunity to do something like align a WW1 monument with the peace tower.

As for the actual buildings, the Australian memorial was built using cut sandstone and looks majestic. The CWM is all poured concrete, ostensibly to resemble a bunker, but more probably because building in cut stone is prohibitively expensive in the modern era. Canada's museum is actually larger, more square footage, and more stuff on display by a significant margin. The CWM's biggest issue is their curator staff who seem to have no interest in celebrating the Canadian profession of arms and its rich history, nor in accurately describing the artifacts on display.

Every time I go to our CWM, I'm disappointed at how many errors I can point out without even lugging reference materials along. Or how floor space is given over to hosting cocktail parties at the expense of a sensible layout for display vehicles, or how they are more interested in apologizing for bombing the nazis than in pointing out the horror that was the third reich and why it needed to be topped by any means.

Then there's the $17/person fee to even get in the door. The AWM is packed all the time. The CWM, more often than not, is a ghost town.

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I agree 100%. What is it with Canadian museums? The other glaring example I'm aware of is the Canadian Juno Beach museum that is a hodge-podge of mismatched artifacts (plus some wooden block kiddie toy soldiers and a message that Canada fought WW2 for 1980's multiculturalism...I kid you not) compared with the French Caen museum not far away that moves you to tears.
 
I agree 100%. What is it with Canadian museums? The other glaring example I'm aware of is the Canadian Juno Beach museum that is a hodge-podge of mismatched artifacts (plus some wooden block kiddie toy soldiers and a message that Canada fought WW2 for 1980's multiculturalism...I kid you not) compared with the French Caen museum not far away that moves you to tears.

I've visited both and found the Juno Beach museum quite abstract while the Caen museum is very vivid. The Juno Beach museum needs more artefacts and a more detailed focus on DDay and the Normandy campaign. We had 5000 dead in Normandy over 80 days. DDay was only the first day.
 
I agree 100%. What is it with Canadian museums? The other glaring example I'm aware of is the Canadian Juno Beach museum that is a hodge-podge of mismatched artifacts (plus some wooden block kiddie toy soldiers and a message that Canada fought WW2 for 1980's multiculturalism...I kid you not) compared with the French Caen museum not far away that moves you to tears.

Dollars to doughnuts, no WW2 vet had any say in the display, materials, or messaging. Likely some "everyone gets a trophy" sheltered millennials were responsible for most of the effort, probably summer students, who backpacked across europe on Mom and Dad's dime between half-hearted curation efforts, did most of the work over there.

Surprised they didn't go all the way in re-writing history.

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Well that was a nice way to be entertained while drinking my morning coffee, thanks a bunch for sharing those pictures!

That tail-piece of that German plane that was recovered, if I counted correctly the pilot shot down 119 planes! I wonder how he was brought down. Another fighter? Flak? Critical pilot error? Very interesting stuff.

Oh yeah, $17 to get into the Canadian war museum??? I had no idea but that is ridiculous and should be free for all to see!
 
If it makes you feel any better, the Canadian War Museum is at least free for all on Canada day every year !

To put it in perspective, I've been to the CWM at least 10 times, but I'm a milsurp aficionado. Most ppl are not.

When I went to the Australian facility, I marched up to reception and asked how much. The lady was incredulous and thought I was trying to proposition her (!). She could not even comprehend that anyone would ever have to pay to see the national war memorial. That's how out of touch Canada is compared to our ally.
 
To put it in perspective, I've been to the CWM at least 10 times, but I'm a milsurp aficionado. Most ppl are not.

When I went to the Australian facility, I marched up to reception and asked how much. The lady was incredulous and thought I was trying to proposition her (!). She could not even comprehend that anyone would ever have to pay to see the national war memorial. That's how out of touch Canada is compared to our ally.

^ This 100% this, no admission to the numerous national Museums in Washington either. The CWM admission fees are nothing short of legalized robbery, charge for parking, charge for food at the "mess", rent out space to generate revenue but admission to the public should be 100% free.
 
Although unstated, the CWM is a tribute and a memorial to our military history and to the service and sacrifices of millions of Canadians in uniform over the years. And like it or not our experiences in war have done much to shape our national identity, our national development and our place in the world. Warm, fuzzy and abstract declarations of lofty goals and good intentions at places like the UN are nothing in comparison.

The CWM is quite unique in comparison to other national museums and shouldn't be smashed into the same big box. I'd welcome a large scale appeal to government to treat the CWM as an admissions free national institution.
 
With their anti-gun laws, why would you want to? They make ours look moderate by comparison.

Besides, you need to put up with those grating Aussie accents. I spent a week in Tuscany with 16 of them last month. Nice people, but we appear to be separated by a common language.;)

Also, cold winters do seem to have something of a cleansing effect.
 
With their anti-gun laws, why would you want to? They make ours look moderate by comparison.

There is massive anti sentiment, but they can own guns if they want to. It's just less socially acceptable and there a few minor extra hoops - not dissimilar to when we had the registry. Oh, and no semis or pump actions for some reason.
 
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