Just ordered my Dominion Arms Outlaw Double

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Okay, I'll concede the point. It is three. One for the gun, two for the shooter.

So if one of these guns doubles, the odds are 2 to 1 that the shooter is an idiot.

Or he is simply heroically dispatching a group of zombies.

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WOW!!! Did you figure that out with your shoes on?
Now be fair to him. Having realized he was out of his depth in a discussion of shotguns he was sadly reduced to a picayune and irrelevant observation about my post on the nature of people who double fire a two-trigger shotgun.

No doubt when he gets his Outlaw he'll be at the range giving it a try. Let us hope he does so with 3" shells. It might knock some sense into him. ;)
 
No doubt when he gets his Outlaw he'll be at the range giving it a try. Let us hope he does so with 3" shells.

As will I! I'm going to cut out some cardboard zombies and set them up on my parents' acreage. Kick. Ass.

I don't have any 3" shells though. I'll have to stop by Canadian Tire and see if they have any. It'll be dope, man. :cheers:
 
Hey you know what I like..when someone starts a legitiamit thread, and its gets reduced to namecalling and bickering. Thats way cooler than any shotgun. Im out, enjoy your outlaws fellas, looks like fun.
 
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You may laugh Claybuster - but as I said the ones I have seen with shortened bbls (unless they were built properly) miss the point of aim (from 10 yards) by enough to make them basically useless as any kind of real firearm that you would depend on. More of a toy to make noise and scatter shot somewhere downrange.
 
Short barelled shotguns are the Harley-Davidson of firearm. Some never understand the pleasant feeling of a louder bang, except for firework.
 
I shot this group with a 12.5" short barrel shotgun at 50 yard.

I used a red-dot scope.

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However, I have to agree the fun of short barrel is not its accuracy. It's the FIREBALL!
 
You may laugh Claybuster - but as I said the ones I have seen with shortened bbls (unless they were built properly) miss the point of aim (from 10 yards) by enough to make them basically useless as any kind of real firearm that you would depend on. More of a toy to make noise and scatter shot somewhere downrange.

Hypothetically speaking of course:

A coachgun's design purpose is CQB and real world, serious social encounters occur at very close ranges, generally less than 7 yards. At these short ranges, this short double should be able to accomplish it's design objective as long as the operator does his/her part.

http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_training/what_happens_gunfight/index1.html

Mr. Fairburn's original quest was to try and answer the stopping power debate of the time, in which he failed because the database of 241 shooting incidents was too small. However, what he did develop were some interesting trends that showed what officers did when they won the confrontation. One of the most interesting was the distances involved. While the FBI statistics show distances as being around ten feet, the PMA study showed the average distance being more like twenty.

I'm going to use mine for shooting water jugs and spoiled fruits and veggies. :D
 
OK - lets be clear here-- I am NOT talking about short bbl SINGLE bbl guns but DOUBLE bbl side by side guns - that may have issues with being dramatically to the right or left of the target unless the short bbls are regulated in to a point of aim at some distance.
One cannot simply hack off a double shotgun to have short bbls and expect the point of aim of both bbls to be the same at say 20 yds

Unless you are within a few yards -- no more

My question is if these Dominion guns do shoot to the point of aim or if they dont
 
OK - lets be clear here-- I am NOT talking about short bbl SINGLE bbl guns but DOUBLE bbl side by side guns - that may have issues with being dramatically to the right or left of the target unless the short bbls are regulated in to a point of aim at some distance.
One cannot simply hack off a double shotgun to have short bbls and expect the point of aim of both bbls to be the same at say 20 yds

Unless you are within a few yards -- no more

My question is if these Dominion guns do shoot to the point of aim or if they dont

This "careful regulated" thing is for double RIFLE. Outlaw is a CQB shotgun.

I will try some slugs after. But how to aim is a problem.
 
You may laugh Claybuster - but as I said the ones I have seen with shortened bbls (unless they were built properly) miss the point of aim (from 10 yards) by enough to make them basically useless as any kind of real firearm that you would depend on.
Not laughing at all. My response was sarcastic in the extreme and no offense was intended to you. However if the Norinco cheerleaders were offended then mission accomplished. I very much doubt barrel regulation is a concern for people in China slapping together $300 guns.

I too have seen double guns, including some costing many, many times more than the Norinco, with barrel regulation issues whether they were cut or not.

More of a toy to make noise and scatter shot somewhere downrange.

We are also in complete agreement on that as well and it pretty much sums up how I regard the "Outlaw."
 
I hate online because you cant tell sarcasim from argument .......

I would like to see how they shoot - and I agree with you Claybuster --
 
I found the right barrel to be better lined up with the sight than the left. I could hit tossed clays as well as I can with my 28 inch barrel 870 supermag, with either barrel. But shooting at 2l bottles took a little work, I'll need to spend more time figuring out exactly where the shot is going. I wish I had taken the slugs with me, I'd probably have a better idea of where things were headed if I had them.

But I'd have to say that, from my limited time at the range, it did not seem that the barrels were regulated to the exact POA, at least not at the distances I was shooting, maybe a little farther out though.
 
Don't think any real cowboys or outlaws would use saw off shotgun for 30 yard shot.

Anyhow it's not a MOA gun. Like M305, it's something we can have but people down south can't.
 
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