Just picked up my shadow...22 kit?

Yes, it's called the Kadet kit. Some minor fitting needs to be done in some cases. Not sure what is needed but others with the kits can fill you in.

But I see that you've already got a bunch of other guns that you're shooting. To me the chief advantage of a .22 kit is that you can practice with the same grip angle, same grip feel and same sights as your match gun. But unless you leave the others in the safe and only shoot the SHadow in either the 9mm guise or with the kit then I'd suggest that you won't realize the full potential of having the same gun for both calibers.

At that point my own personal preference is to just buy a dedicated .22 gun that is pretty close to my other guns in grip angle and balance. That way I can blast through a magazine of .22 and then flow into a magazine of 9mm and back again to .22 without the need to swap out top ends. In my early days and when I find I need some remedial re-training to kill a flinch issue I found/find that the benifit of flowing from one gun to the next fluidly is more valuable than the identical gun shooting two different calibers when you factor in the time and mental shifts needed to swap top ends.
 
I thought about that but a pistol of similar weight to the shadow is a kadet at $900 where as a 22 conversion is probably half that...

BCRider said:
Yes, it's called the Kadet kit. Some minor fitting needs to be done in some cases. Not sure what is needed but others with the kits can fill you in.

But I see that you've already got a bunch of other guns that you're shooting. To me the chief advantage of a .22 kit is that you can practice with the same grip angle, same grip feel and same sights as your match gun. But unless you leave the others in the safe and only shoot the SHadow in either the 9mm guise or with the kit then I'd suggest that you won't realize the full potential of having the same gun for both calibers.

At that point my own personal preference is to just buy a dedicated .22 gun that is pretty close to my other guns in grip angle and balance. That way I can blast through a magazine of .22 and then flow into a magazine of 9mm and back again to .22 without the need to swap out top ends. In my early days and when I find I need some remedial re-training to kill a flinch issue I found/find that the benifit of flowing from one gun to the next fluidly is more valuable than the identical gun shooting two different calibers when you factor in the time and mental shifts needed to swap top ends.
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I picked up the kadet kit when i got my CZ85 Combat. It is very quick to make the changeover at the range.

I did have to do some minor filing (yes, it killed me to do so) to make it fit properly. It comes with instructions on where you may need to file. Note that NOT all conversions NEED to be filed...it is just a matter of fit. Again, it only took a few moments.

I have 5 mags for each and switch the kit out at any time. It also came in handy gettiing my wife and sons used to it before using it in the 9mm.
 
File the conversion or the gun???

flyer415 said:
I picked up the kadet kit when i got my CZ85 Combat. It is very quick to make the changeover at the range.

I did have to do some minor filing (yes, it killed me to do so) to make it fit properly. It comes with instructions on where you may need to file. Note that NOT all conversions NEED to be filed...it is just a matter of fit. Again, it only took a few moments.

I have 5 mags for each and switch the kit out at any time. It also came in handy gettiing my wife and sons used to it before using it in the 9mm.
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I wasn't suggesting that you buy a full Kadet but rather some other gun that is similar in grip angle and shape to your two CZ's and the Beretta. A Browning Buckmark is a great .22 and is similar enough to your other handguns that it would provide valid practice as well as being a fine gun on it's own. And it costs no more than a Kadet kit. Especially if you add on the cost of having a smith fit the kit if it's needed.
 
The confusion is killing me lol!!! Half the people say buy the kit so that you're using the same gun (now that I have a shadow I don't think I will shoot the others much) and some say just buy another pistol in a .22...

BCRider said:
I wasn't suggesting that you buy a full Kadet but rather some other gun that is similar in grip angle and shape to your two CZ's and the Beretta. A Browning Buckmark is a great .22 and is similar enough to your other handguns that it would provide valid practice as well as being a fine gun on it's own. And it costs no more than a Kadet kit. Especially if you add on the cost of having a smith fit the kit if it's needed.
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I bought both at the same time. I did the filing on the kit with the file in my Gerber multi-tool. It took about 10 min of file a tad, try the fit etc. I generally don't find that the switch is that big a deal, but then I'm not doing any serious zen training with the shadow. Anyway, a big +1 on the Kadet Kit.

**If you do get one, be careful not to perform any cleaning in the garage by the door in the fall and accidentally hold the slide the wrong way pushing on the firing pin while you wipe the chamber area out so crud doesn't go in the firing pin channel. It is possible that one could allow the firing pin stop to drop down and the firing pin spring to fling it outside into some leaves never to be found again. I ah.... know a guy who did this (not me!!) and he'll be waiting months to see that part sail back over here from the CZ republic!! **
 
pizdets17 said:
ahh i see. I'd probably have a gunsmith do it. Not so good with my hands lol
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It really is very easy. Just file a bit...try the fit..file a bit...try the fit. I did it that way making sure not to file anymore off then necessary. Also, some kits don't need to be filed.

And I just used my small files that were relatively cheap from Home Depot.
 
pizdets17 said:
The confusion is killing me lol!!! Half the people say buy the kit so that you're using the same gun (now that I have a shadow I don't think I will shoot the others much) and some say just buy another pistol in a .22...
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Well in the end it's purely up to you.

Reasons why I prefer the separate gun are;
  • I shoot more than the one gun. I mix things up with revolvers and a 1911 as well as my two CZ's. So for me having the exact same platform in 9mm and .22 isn't a big deal. Becaue I'm upsetting the applecart by shooting more than a single gun to the exclusion of all others I would not see a big benifit in having a top end to swap out. Any minor hold differences and trigger finger issues that would become an issue are ruined by having a wide variety that I enjoy.
  • Although it takes less than a minute to swap the top end it is still a significant break in the flow if I'm working to kill off a flinching issue. I work on that by shooting a couple of magazines of .22 and then flow directly to shooting a magazine of 9mm while the Zen like tranquility brought on by the soft recoil of the .22 is still fresh. I honestly feel that if I were to take the time to swap top ends even at 30 to 40 seconds to do so it would break the flow. Not to mention that swapping top ends twice for every three magazines shot would get old really, really fast.
  • And best of all it provides an excuse to get another gun to fondle and enjoy. A Browning Buckmark is one sweet looking pistol in it's own right. And I've seen models for anywhere from $380 to $500 depending on the options.

For me the only way to go for these reasons was with separate dedicated .22's. For yourself you'll need to decide on why you want one, what its purpose will be how you want to deal with top end swaps if you get a kit and go for the option that suits you the most/best for what you're using the .22 for.
 
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