K98 from Norway?Nope,It's a Mystery

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Can someone shed some light on these rifles,I have one coming
in from P&D,in very good shape,in full military configuration,
chambered in 30/06.P&D has said it is a K98 so I'm looking for
info.The only ones I can think of is the ones from Norway.
Thanks 375rum
 
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Unless it is a custom sporter job to 30/06 (doubtful since it has the full military stock), it almost definitely a Norwegian rework. These were German K98's reworked after the war and rebarrelled to 30/06. To positively ID as a Norwegian, a section of the reciever ring will be milled flat. There was a thread about Norwegian K98's not too long ago with some pics of the ground reciever. Hope this helps some....
 
P&S Militaria has a bunch of Norwegian K98k's in stock - you can go there to see pics. Think excellent condition German K98k, rebarelled to .30-06, and a flat milled in the side of the receiver with some new markings added. they are often original German matching too. Really nice guns.

Many other K98 type mausers have been made in .30-06, however. Some examples that come to mind are:

-Brazilian M954 Itajuba Arsenal made from rebuilt M1908 Mausers.
-Fabrique National M1950 Mausers, made for a variety of countries (mostly in South America).
-Mexican M1936 Mauser
 
I own one of the Norwegian rifles. It is as described above. One interesting feature, at least on mine, is the stamping on the barrel "7.62". This, of course, indicates that it is 30-06. Back when this was stamped, I don't think the 7.62 NATO round yet existed, at least in not practical use. I have used this as one example of not presuming anything about firearms. Some firearms safety instructors are telling their students that all they need to do to determine the chambering for a firearm is look on the receiver. Hmmmm. My rifle has some German "Eagles" stamped here and there on some of the small parts. It has a laminated stock. Very nice rifle. :p:p
 
375rum said:
Can someone shed some light on these rifles,I have one coming in from P&D,in very good shape,in full military configuration,
chambered in 30/06.P&D has said it is a K98 so I'm looking for
info.The only ones I can think of is the ones from Norway.
Thanks 375rum
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Here's the markings as they should appear if it's a Norwegian...

Example pic from a 1943 Norwegian K98k (.30-06) Mauser Rifle (Mfg by J.P. Sauer und Sohn) (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=1685, from the Norway - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55


(Click PIC to Enlarge)

Regards,
Badger
 
The rifles from P&D are almost certainly in 7.62x63. That being said, be careful, I bought one from a private individual, with the same markings as those in badgers' picture and it is chambered in 7.62x51 Nato. There is nothing to indicate this and the only way to check it out was with a go-nogo headspace gauge. bearhunter
 
Half an inch excess headspace CAN be a problem, but can also be overcome in a good Mauser.

I have fired lots of 7.62 NATO AND .308 Winchester from my M954 and I'm still alive. Trick is to be SURE that the extractor has a grip on the round before you close the bolt. The straighter case of the NATO/Win cartridge helps positioning in the more-tapered .30-'06 chamber. When you pull the trigger, you have a low-pressure situation. The bullet is projected with considerable force, the case is blown right out straight with a very short section where the shoulder ought to be. Whatever you do, don't expect much accuracy.

Firing under-length rounds can be done safely as long as the cartridge in the chamber doesn't get a "run" at the bolt-face. If the extractor is holding it, the chances are very good that you can get away with it.

Not to be recommended for daily use, but there could be an emergency.......
 
I got the rifle today,it is not Norwegian,I don't know what it is.:confused:
It is FN made in Belgium,straight bolt,numbers match,has a crown with
circle underneath it under the handguard with E,L,G and a star,no other
markings that I can see,until I get of work and pull it apart.It does not
say 30/06 on it anywhere I can see so far.It is in good shape,that's about
the only good thing,the stock has the serial number too on it only 4 digit on the
metal and wood.:confused: It sure is not the 98 P&D said it was although
it looks alot like one.The metal finish is grey except for where it would
have been ground if it was from Norway.Oh well it's mine now.
 
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This rifle is neither Israeli or Norwegian.I don't have a clue what it
is.It has K98 features and is the same size.P&D is sure it is 30/06
I now have a mystery mauser.They got it from the owner who has
shot it and said it was quite accurate.I'm leery of shooting until
I can find out more.
 
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Does it look like this one?

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Yup,I was looking at some pics on the net,I think it is
a FN Model 24/30 M1950 without any crests on it for
whatever South American country that was going to
get it.It is in some nice shape.
 
That picture was taken from P&S, as listed:
Belgian Mauser Model 1950 Short Rifle, manufactured by FN-Herstal, Rarely seen Belgian-Congo rifle marked to the Colonial Force Publique, cal. 30-06 Gov
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Possibly not the exact same, but you're getting closer.
 
No yours is not a Belgian-Congo or even Belgian Amy issue. It is a standard FN M1950 made for export, hence no markings on the receiver. It could have been sold to just about anybody in the world who needed some rifles.
 
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