K98 Help *Lots of pictures*

I have been doing research online and the 1001 on the barrel means it is a east german police rework? Any thoughts on that?
 
N with the crown is a 1891-1939 German proof for Nitro Proof. Usually it would also be shared with a crown with a B for Black Powder, crown with a U for final proof, and a crown with a G for rifled bore. Since yours is a rework it was likely a 1939 or earlier manufactured German barrel.
 
Your receiver has been scrubbed of markings on top, basically assembled post war from left over parts.
If it were a East German Police (Vopo) Rebuild, it would have the VOPO Starburst stamped on it.
It will be a great shooter.

JasonGTA said:
I have been doing research online and the 1001 on the barrel means it is a east german police rework? Any thoughts on that?
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Your call but I seriously doubt it is East German. I have never seen one of their rebuilds with a Czech post war scrubbed receiver on it. I have been wrong before though on more than one occasion. So as I said your call.
 
Neither have I seen a scrubbed receiver as Vopo either. It's just a parts gun made from leftover parts. How does 1001 make it police?

bearhunter said:
Your call but I seriously doubt it is East German. I have never seen one of their rebuilds with a Czech post war scrubbed receiver on it. I have been wrong before though on more than one occasion. So as I said your call.
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Coyote Ugly said:
Neither have I seen a scrubbed receiver as Vopo either. It's just a parts gun made from leftover parts. How does 1001 make it police?
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I read this on wikipedia and a few other sites. but reading what you have to say I am sure it isnt a VoPo K98. Thank you all for the help!

"East German refurbished Karabiner 98ks featured Russian-style thicker blue finish, a 'sunburst' proof mark and sometimes had the factory designation '1001' applied, which was the factory where the refurbishment was carried out. Numbers were re-stamped to match the receiver and old numbers barred out. Numbers of East German and Czech refurbished Karabiner 98ks were exported to the West in the late 1980s and early 1990s and are now in the hands of collectors. Russian Capture Karabiner 98ks were exported to the West in large numbers in the early- and mid- 2000s."
 
well you definitely have a East German barrel on a Czech action . the bolt take down disk in the stock is note worthy on a post war stock.
And why is the butt plate so trashed compared to the rest of the parts.
 
gaff said:
the bolt take down disk in the stock is note worthy on a post war stock.
And why is the butt plate so trashed compared to the rest of the parts.
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The buttplate is trashed because the previous owner decided to glue a rectangular piece of fabric on it thinking it would work as a recoil pad. I guess you get what you pay for!
 
Quote Originally Posted by gaff View Post

the bolt take down disk in the stock is note worthy on a post war stock.
And why is the butt plate so trashed compared to the rest of the parts.

If you look at the OPs pics you will see the stock has been renumbered. It isn't a post war stock.
 
I wish these rifles could talk, it would be so much easier to find out where they have been other than trying to decipher random numbers stamped under the barrel. lol, one can only wish!
 
bearhunter said:
Quote Originally Posted by gaff View Post

the bolt take down disk in the stock is note worthy on a post war stock.
And why is the butt plate so trashed compared to the rest of the parts.

If you look at the OPs pics you will see the stock has been renumbered. It isn't a post war stock.
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if you say so.
 
I don't see any dirty birds, WaA or Nazi firing proofs. Just a lonely WaA135 stamped on the triggerguard.
The bolt looks to be possibly ground and renumbered.
 
Ok, so this rifle is a post war rifle made with WW2 era parts, then re-barreled at Ernst Thallmann Werks in East Germany with a barrel made before 1939 but it was not stamped with the sunburst vopo stamp so no police service? Why would the triggerguard be marked BYF with WAa`s and 5012 on it but the receiver is marked Czech with 5012 on it? The trigger guard does not seem to be scrubbed and renumbered. Maybe it was made at BYF before WW2 and before the Germans started to stamp the eagles on their guns then after the war the barrel was changed at Ernst Thallmann Werks and then sent to Czechoslovakia where they rearsenaled it and scrubbed the receiver?
 
Nope.

Czechs didn't bother scrubbing lots of German wartime marks. It's a post war rebuild. Nice rifle though.

Czechs built lots of rifles for the East Germans. The Germans also used whatever they had on hand after the war and didn't necessarily scrub off wartime marks either.
 
OK that makes sense. But, I do believe this was a WW2 K98, I maybe going insane and have watched too many episodes of CSI but there is a difference on the blueing on the receiver where a Nazi eagle would be and where the old serial number would be, underneath the serial number I can see faint numbers, I can make out one clearly and it is a ʒ, and I googled serial numbers from BYF on K98s and the ʒ matches up and is the exact same size number as a serial number on a Russian Capture K98 that I have and the scrubbing where the eagle would be matches perfectly size wise also. Oh god I think I am going insane...
 
This isn't a WW2 K98k. The receiver is clearly a Czech post war receiver, not Mauser Oberndorf and the barrel is post war EG. There are some WW2 parts like the byf trigger guard which is a very late piece made at Mauser Oberndorf because it doesn't have provisions for the locking screws. It would never have been numbered originally so it was easy for the EG or Czechs to add the serial at the time this rifle was built/refurbed.
 
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