K98 Mauser Gun show find

Let me stat by saying that you seem intent on not taking any of my advice, but I am of the opinion that is NOT a 1938 Sauer Bolt. It is almost certainly a 1943-era bolt from another factory.

It's is, IMHO, 100% for certain a Die Berlin-Lübecker Maschinenfabriken Lübeck bolt from the duv code era, I believe 1943. I can tell just by the style of WaA stamp and the level of machining marks left unpolished.

That is NOT a Sauer bolt. Period. I'm sticking with the diagnosis of a surrendered rifle from May 1945.
 
I should have put "YMMV" at the bottom of the post. Some people persist in believing CEF troops threw stens into windows to clear rooms in lieu of grenades and others believe in the tooth fairy.

Not much more to say than that.
 
Claven2 said:
I should have put "YMMV" at the bottom of the post. Some people persist in believing CEF troops threw stens into windows to clear rooms in lieu of grenades and others believe in the tooth fairy.

Not much more to say than that.
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That story about the Sten's turns up every year at the Calgary Easter Gun Show! And they say when the mag empties all the rounds, the Sten makes a perfect 360 degree revolution on the floor as it clears the room of German Soldiers! H:S:
 
By 1939 sauer had been assigned waa team 37. I agree that the bolt is a lubecker.
Sauer hadn't been 214 since 1937.
So for your bolt to be 214 and sauer is impossible, as in 1937 they were still using the weimar style eagle.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
That story about the Sten's turns up every year at the Calgary Easter Gun Show! And they say when the mag empties all the rounds, the Sten makes a perfect 360 degree revolution on the floor as it clears the room of German Soldiers! H:S:
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Shooting a room full of Germans in the ankles doesn't seem all that effective.
 
No matter what the bolt says, that is a sweet find. An all matching bolt is a rare find as well. Seems everyone is an expert just because they might have a copy of Backbone of the Wehrmacht! Who knows...that rifle might have gone through the whole conflict and that's a Armorer installed bolt. And that would be original. WW2 Original. One thing is for sure, it’s not a butchered Russian capture, or an East German re-issue. You don't see many all matching rifles like that anymore. Especially an early war rifle. Looks like you have yourself a keeper.
Great post, and thanks for taking the time to take the pictures. At least it went to someone who appreciates it.
 
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Shaznay said:
No matter what the bolt says, that is a sweet find. An all matching bolt is a rare find as well. Seems everyone is an expert just because they might have a copy of Backbone of the Wehrmacht! Who knows...that rifle might have gone through the whole conflict and that's a Armorer installed bolt. And that would be original. WW2 Original. One thing is for sure, it’s not a butchered Russian capture, or an East German re-issue. You don't see many all matching rifles like that anymore. Especially an early war rifle. Looks like you have yourself a keeper.
Great post, and thanks for taking the time to take the pictures. At least it went to someone who appreciates it.
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No one uses backbone anymore........and claven and I can support our position with facts and pics of real guns. That bolt is not original, or an armorer bolt. It is still a great gun, no ones trying to take that away.
 
Your bolt is a mismatch with the different serial number and the 214 WaA.
The WaA should be 37 WaA on all the bolt parts, along with the same serial number on the receiver, which it is not.

The 214 Bolt could possibly be from a 1939-1940 code 237 (Berlin Lubecker) or 1940 duv and up for years (as they have the double struck WaA 214 on the bottom of the bolt root), and they are not the same maker as Sauer.


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Claven2 said:
Most likely scenario is that the vet picked this up at an arms dump when the Whermacht was being disarmed in May 1945. In those times, the bolts were in one pile, the rifles in another. GI's who wanted a war trophy picked a rifle and fumbled in the pile for any old bolt that looks serviceable.
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I would tend to agree since it was in the Vets possession since WW2.

Another possibility, but likely not in this case, is some collectors swap the bolts out to have the same WaA, but still a mismatched serial number.
 
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