K98k and K98 AZ Market price

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Ive got a nice matching 1917 efurt Kar 98az that im considering trading for K98k and I was wondering for how much they were going for right now? Ive seen matching k98k in the range of 3000$ but no az latetly. Could the more experience guy out here give me an appreciation of this rifle https://imgur.com/a/uMsm7nT . Only down side of this gun is the broken bayonnet lug. Im thinking its in the range of 2000-2400$. Thank you
 
Methinks you might be just a little high given the bayonet lug damage... I have to admit the couple I have seen sell in the last couple years have not been quite as nice as yours is but they were in the 1200-1600 dollar range.... I think 1800-2000 would fair if It were for sale but hey, what do I know. I'm sure there's someone out there who would pay more... The most recent switzer's auction had me floored at some of the prices the more desirable milsurps were going for...
 
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I think with a broken bayo lug you are looking at around ~2k given all the current price craziness, but its hard to say. I very very nice az sold on the ee a few months back for 2500. Sold within 24hrs.

As for the K98k, it really depends on what kind of K98k and condition.
 
Just putting my two cents out there but some of the prices on the EE are just outrageous but as long as some folks throw money at their computer screen, it permanently drives up the prices for the rest of us.

I can't remember what the 1914 Danzig AZ went for on the EE a few months ago but I think it was decently priced considering the rarity compared to Erfurt made examples.
 
Just putting my two cents out there but some of the prices on the EE are just outrageous but as long as some folks throw money at their computer screen, it permanently drives up the prices for the rest of us.

I can't remember what the 1914 Danzig AZ went for on the EE a few months ago but I think it was decently priced considering the rarity compared to Erfurt made examples.

I could easily change the lug for cheap but I choose not too to keep the rifle 100% original. 1200$ might be your limit but this waaaaaayyyy under actual market price.
 
Thank you for all the input guys. My only background for az was a same year and factory Az that sell for 2000$ like 2 week ago in less than 1h. It was complete but mine is in better shape.
 
I could easily change the lug for cheap but I choose not too to keep the rifle 100% original. 1200$ might be your limit but this waaaaaayyyy under actual market price.

If you already know the price then why ask? If you replace the broken lug it is no longer all matching, and loses value there. If you keep it as is, you have a broken part on the rifle which to me would significantly bring the price down. Collectors want all matching and correct, one without the other isn't worth too much. It is why the best examples demand so much, it is a hard state to get.

I once went to buy a Kar88 which was all matching. When I received it some idiot had ground down the protective ears on the front sight protector and I hadn't noticed. Immediately sent back for return as that alone brought that all matching piece which was worth at least 1100$ (at that time) to 600-700$. If it isn't 100% correct and matching it doesn't bring top dollar (unless the buyer is unaware of what they are looking at, which many don't seem to have done their research these days).
 
Everyone loves the auction sight for prices
If something at the auction goes cheap, everyone thinks someone's item is over priced
When someone is cheaper than the auction, nothing is said
An auction is based on supply and demanded and what someone is willing to pay at that moment,
something like the stock market
A lot of stuff at auction sells for less than expectation
Take into consider the auction fees etc it is just one platform to sell something that many people expect
to get a deal
I got two FA's in mint condition for $400.00 because everyone was going cheap on the floor
They called quoted the price and I did it.
 
I think broken bayo lug hurts the value, but some people might find it ok.

I would rather have the rifle with broken matching lug, then not matching at all. What above folks said is fair. Auction prices are ridiculous now.

A wartime K98 will bring more, as there is more interest in WW2. A matching K98k is no easy rifle to find. And I mean truly matching, not some assembled super turd that almost all sellers claim to be matching. I mean a true 100% matching gun.

Take care
 
I think broken bayo lug hurts the value, but some people might find it ok.

I would rather have the rifle with broken matching lug, then not matching at all. What above folks said is fair. Auction prices are ridiculous now.

A wartime K98 will bring more, as there is more interest in WW2. A matching K98k is no easy rifle to find. And I mean truly matching, not some assembled super turd that almost all sellers claim to be matching. I mean a true 100% matching gun.

Take care

I agree that correct, matching, original WW2 Kar98s tend to bring both more interest and money than WW1 Gew98 rifles and/or Kar98a carbines. I suspect that WW2 does hold more interest to more people. I also agree that actual correct, matching and original rifles up here are much harder to find that most give credit for.

Perhaps some of the more well versed Mauser collectors have a better idea? Values up here for anything and everything Milsurp has sky rocketed, arguably pricing many people out of it.
 
... Values up here for anything and everything Milsurp has sky rocketed, arguably pricing many people out of it.

I am definitely one of those people. Atleast it is keeping more money in my pocket :).

I guess I can say I had my fun over the last 12 years and have collected some interesting milsurps but now I can focus in on the ones I want to hang onto for a bit longer.
 
If you already know the price then why ask? If you replace the broken lug it is no longer all matching, and loses value there. If you keep it as is, you have a broken part on the rifle which to me would significantly bring the price down. Collectors want all matching and correct, one without the other isn't worth too much. It is why the best examples demand so much, it is a hard state to get.

I once went to buy a Kar88 which was all matching. When I received it some idiot had ground down the protective ears on the front sight protector and I hadn't noticed. Immediately sent back for return as that alone brought that all matching piece which was worth at least 1100$ (at that time) to 600-700$. If it isn't 100% correct and matching it doesn't bring top dollar (unless the buyer is unaware of what they are looking at, which many don't seem to have done their research these days).

Fully aware of all the above. Still im looking for actual market price, from people who are in it right now. Not what it use to be 5 years ago. 1200$ is what israeli/RC/portuguese contract are going.
 
I am definitely one of those people. Atleast it is keeping more money in my pocket :).

I guess I can say I had my fun over the last 12 years and have collected some interesting milsurps but now I can focus in on the ones I want to hang onto for a bit longer.

Yes I have far fewer milsurps than I used to have and am “focusing” more these days! Fortunately / Unfortunately many of my “cooler” milsurp sales helped pay for college and university. In hind sight, a good idea, even if not fun...
 
I agree that correct, matching, original WW2 Kar98s tend to bring both more interest and money than WW1 Gew98 rifles and/or Kar98a carbines. I suspect that WW2 does hold more interest to more people. I also agree that actual correct, matching and original rifles up here are much harder to find that most give credit for.

Perhaps some of the more well versed Mauser collectors have a better idea? Values up here for anything and everything Milsurp has sky rocketed, arguably pricing many people out of it.

This absolutly true. Ive been collecting for a while but only recently ive I been serious about it. Didnt even know the term milsurp until last year. And that why im having a hard time with proper appreciation. When talking with the old guy they all give me low appreciation. To them a 300$ mosin is outrageous. Yet this is the price of an average mosin today. But the mauser market in the last years is the one that keep going up.
 
... When talking with the old guy they all give me low appreciation. To them a 300$ mosin is outrageous. Yet this is the price of an average mosin today. But the mauser market in the last years is the one that keep going up.

I think we have reached the point where we can honestly say "Back in my day...".
 
What are typical RC not peened going for in good shape these days? I can't seem to find much on EE. Cannot seem to find much for Garands and SVT40 either. Are they selling fast or just not being listed?
 
Still im looking for actual market price, from people who are in it right now.
It's easy. Just get the representative data (last 100 sales of matching Kar with broken lugs) for the last 3 months, add the prices, divide by 100.
Seriously, there's no such thing as "market price" for rifle like yours and many other items that are not commonly available. And no, you can't compare it with anything, like RC or matching Kar98k, because demand and supply, not scarcity decides the price.
 
Something is worth what someone will pay for it. The market decides.

One time you couldn't give away ANY surplus rifle, regardless of condition. All of a sudden they are hot items.

And it's not just surplus arms either. Look at the current price of a Colt Python, (I mean the REAL Pythons, not the modern clones). Is it worth the going price to own one? Having recently bought a mint OLD model 4" Python for half the cost of a 6" OLD model, I can honestly say - No. Paying the current asking price for an original 6" Python wouldn't be worth it TO ME.

Same for my nice Garand which I bought for $275 back when. In my opinion, as a surplus rifle, that's what it was worth both then and now. But not on the EE !!!

And no - you cannot have it for that price!
 
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