Kandahar firearm lube ?
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Lots of guys use the dry graphite to avoid having the dust sludge build-up.
Myself, I use the issued CLP - it is always available, graphite often isn't. With a mag in, the ejection port closed, and one of those muzzle cap thingys on, you won't have a problem if you do a little minor cleaning daily
Never tried the grease yet, sounds like a good idea.
Graphite is pretty much useless in a C7 and causes increases wear and tear on the weapon.
After a good cleaning, wipe the weapon dry. Place a bit of lube between the bolt and bolt carrier and spin it around in there until its got a light coat. Another dab on the sides of the bolt carrier and you're good to go. If you can get your hands on some "Moly" lube used for the LAV cannons then youre laughing!!!
AB
AB
I sent my sons military address and they shipped him some of their product, it took a shorter time than the parcels I send him, he said it was a fair amount. He was working in a compound where there was some JTF2 guys and they tried the MILITEC-1 and seemed to think it might work, so he left some with them because they were out side the fence way more than he is, and he passed on how you can get more. Just contact ww w.militec-1.com give them a military address and ask for some of their product.
If we are lubing the working parts with something suitable, does the barrel get lube? Just out of curiosity.
I vaguely remember the British BHP pamphlet saying no oil in the sand, no doubt better lube is available nowadays. Wet sand in the SLR was bad enough
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I vaguely remember the British BHP pamphlet saying no oil in the sand, no doubt better lube is available nowadays. Wet sand in the SLR was bad enough
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get him some Gun Juice..it's a dry lubricant..talk to Alberta Tactical should work great..i didn't have any when i was over but Reaper is correct you need some lube...just on the action..make sure he keeps the dust cover up tight..we did a range shoot one day when a dust storm blew in and coated and i mean coated the C9 LMG's (light machine gun) we were firing and they stopped dead..the only solution was to pour gun oil....(CLP was all we had) into the actions and they fired up...yes it does probably cause some wear..they were grindy sounding but they fired...and that's the objective to have the weapon fire everytime..i personally don't care about accellerated wear as long as it shoots when i want it too..you have to be meticulous with maintenance...get him cans of compressed air and a paint brush..and he has to daily inspect his weapon..but some small lube (CLP) on the bolt area is a good thing and if it does jam the best thing is to pour that crap into the action and keep firing it sprays everywhere but it does get the weapon firing i've seen it many times. As for the Yukon they do that to prevent the action from freezing..in that case then yes a graphite type lube would probably be best.
proper maintenance and clp is all that is need this is my second time here in Kandahar and no problems whats so ever..except the first time on the c6 fixed that problem with more clp.
hes in Afghanistan its dirty the whole place is. you only need oil is curtain places .. it really should not be a problem
hes in Afghanistan its dirty the whole place is. you only need oil is curtain places .. it really should not be a problem
I use nanolube on mh semi-autos with good sucess.There's a bit of a deate of trade mark issues with the product. I've linked the company that the oil I use is from.
They donated some to the Ontario Provincial Pistol team as a test. - Works well.
http://www.nanolube.com/
I read the US army was doing a test in Iraq with it. Iraq has similar dust issues.
Brian
They donated some to the Ontario Provincial Pistol team as a test. - Works well.
http://www.nanolube.com/
I read the US army was doing a test in Iraq with it. Iraq has similar dust issues.
Brian
Graphite lubricants are considered to be incompatible with aluminum, at least for long-term use. They tend to cause corrosion/pitting. Your mileage may vary.
HUH? I certainly don't promote nor care for graphite powder......
...but what on earth are you talking about? Corrosion/pitting on aluminum?
Graphite is a conductor. If it is in contact with aluminum, and moisture (water, perspiration, etc) at the same time, it will form a really well functioning corrosion cell.
Not a biggie, IMO, until it gets wet.
I agree with Whatsknew. Who cares if it wears, as long as it works! Tool, not a collectors item. The forces has armourers to fix 'em or scrap 'em if they start to slow down.
Cheers
Trev
the CF teaches and it's right in the C7 pam to not apply any oil to the weapon and to leave it in the sun to "sweat" then to wipe it off (cleaning in adverse conditions)..NO LUBE..that's what it teaches...well when you actually get to afghanistan it's like the surface of the moon i would imagine..tiny sand..like flour consistency..and you quickly realize that the NO LUBE philosophy doesn't work...you need lube to keep it going i would say it's more critical even than over here in canada...you can fire a dry gun here quite nicely your only worry is rust prevention..over there rust not so much just friction reducing as the sand exponentially increases the friction between the bolt and the reciever..the C7 is almost a precision weapon it's tolerances are so tight it doesn't tolerate sand very well..it's no AK..much more accurate but it's like a woman..High Maintenance..so it needs the lube.
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In some units the graphite is ISSUED KIT.
In some units not using it will get you ####, or charged, depending on how amped up your chain of command is.
Reaper and KevinB have it right. It's about keeping the gun running, not keeping it new.
In some units not using it will get you ####, or charged, depending on how amped up your chain of command is.
Reaper and KevinB have it right. It's about keeping the gun running, not keeping it new.
Beleive me I had tried about everything under the sun - dry lubes (dont) dry graphite (dont)
Militec - fine, but I did not notice anything much better than CLP.
The "poo" dust that is like talcum powder is prevalent in Afghan and Iraq - and it will form a cement like substance if you dont use enough lube to keep it moist -- 99% of the dust wont cause problems anyway in a M4/C8 as an ear plug of muzzle cap will close that end up and the dust cover and bolt seal that -- you will get some in thru the trigger opening in the lower -- but nothing huge that cannot be solved by daily PM.
I have (touch wood) yet to have a stoppage (except empty mag) operationally with a M16FOW and I have shot a #### load of ammo in Afghan and Iraq over the last 5 years.
I keep my mags good to go and #### can bad ones (and now run PMAGS exclusively) mags are the #1 issue with this weapon system so keep on top of them.
Heck we blew up a can on amy suppressed Mk18 my last few days in Afghan with over 3500 rds - and it ran on and on it looked like the CLP was motor oil due to all the carbon but the gun ran...
Militec - fine, but I did not notice anything much better than CLP.
The "poo" dust that is like talcum powder is prevalent in Afghan and Iraq - and it will form a cement like substance if you dont use enough lube to keep it moist -- 99% of the dust wont cause problems anyway in a M4/C8 as an ear plug of muzzle cap will close that end up and the dust cover and bolt seal that -- you will get some in thru the trigger opening in the lower -- but nothing huge that cannot be solved by daily PM.
I have (touch wood) yet to have a stoppage (except empty mag) operationally with a M16FOW and I have shot a #### load of ammo in Afghan and Iraq over the last 5 years.
I keep my mags good to go and #### can bad ones (and now run PMAGS exclusively) mags are the #1 issue with this weapon system so keep on top of them.
Heck we blew up a can on amy suppressed Mk18 my last few days in Afghan with over 3500 rds - and it ran on and on it looked like the CLP was motor oil due to all the carbon but the gun ran...
