Kar98k Opinion piece
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as a functioning rifle to shoot i would say the post war rework .they can be found in like new k98 condition and are nice representations of the original war time 98 and are gaining collector ,value TGF 1950 for example.The rc 98 are collectible and will gain momentum as time goes by,leave them in refurbished rc condtion.
I know a decent amount about Russian Captures but I am finding it hard to find information on the EG refurbs. Does anyone know how the Germans refurbed them?
Did they try to leave as many original parts with the rifle as possible and only replace parts that didn’t pass inspection?
I know they forced matched some parts, but is it reasonable to find one with a lot of original matching parts?
Were the stocks mostly left alone or did they sand them down and refinish them?
Did they try to leave as many original parts with the rifle as possible and only replace parts that didn’t pass inspection?
I know they forced matched some parts, but is it reasonable to find one with a lot of original matching parts?
Were the stocks mostly left alone or did they sand them down and refinish them?
maple_leaf_eh
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
And I agree with you. Sigh.
Use the search tools and ask about Mausers and East German or Germany. There was an interesting conversation in the last month or so about an East German rifle, what it was, where it had sat for decades, what it was worth, why be interested, etc. Plenty of answers there.
As a collector I like to have a good understanding of the military, civil, and political history around each piece I keep. There are as many reasons to be interested in something, as there are to have other things to have in the locker.
I think were assembled from left over parts from ww11 that were never used in the war effort for some reason.they were assembled post ww11 and used by east german security forces and a great number wer sold around the world .you can search info on line on these that will answer most of your questions about east german k98 built rifles,the ones i have seen are in very good condtion and saw little or no use.
Yes yes you hate RC k98s we understand.
I mean if I was alive back when all matching K98’s were affordable I may have gotten a couple as well. Now it’s nice to be able to own a historic rifle wheter it’s a Russian capture or EG rebuild. Can’t justify spending two mortgage payments on a rifle that just sits in my basement.
That said the all matching are beautiful and I would love to own one some day but right now it’s nice to have any Mauser action. I do find it funny that people scoff at the rifles some people buy, when they were never afforded the chance to get $500-700 all matching mausers.
I just wanted more info on East German rifles, which I think in their own right having an interesting history. I didn’t want to start a p**sing contest.
That said the all matching are beautiful and I would love to own one some day but right now it’s nice to have any Mauser action. I do find it funny that people scoff at the rifles some people buy, when they were never afforded the chance to get $500-700 all matching mausers.
I just wanted more info on East German rifles, which I think in their own right having an interesting history. I didn’t want to start a p**sing contest.
gewehr76
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Join Gunboards forum. There is a whole section dedicated to Military mausers. Here all you going to get is RC this and RC that.
That's the world of K98s summed up pretty succinctly.
"Only all matching K98s personally fondled by Goering are worth buying!"
"Why would I buy some cobbled together pos?"
"Ivan did a lousy dip blue job..."
"Svetlana was pissed..."
Am I missing any?
Personally, I own a very nice 1942 K98 RC. She's got stories to tell, but she's reticent and oft demurs when asked her story...
Sell me an all matching for $800 otherwise you’re opinion is moot. I love people rubbing the fact they could buy all marching K98 for peanuts in our face. The difference between people buying Russian captures and all matching is era of birth that’s more or less it. If I could buy an all matching for $700 I would buy two or three but that isn’t the reality I live in.
It is best to belittle those whose interests differ from yours. For sure, then, we all know how much wiser and discerning you are. I caught heck from someone a while back for saying that a poster had a nice old rifle. Phwew! I sure learned to keep quiet after that dressing down. I've got lots of good stuff in my pile, but must refrain from posting any pics or sharing about it, as it may not be up to "standard".
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I do love the matching ones but I don’t think th reworks are garbage. Each has their own unique history.
Every hobby forum I have ever joined has those members who look down on others simply because they didn’t have the “good” fortune of being born when things were affordable and horses were still the best mode of transport.
Every hobby forum I have ever joined has those members who look down on others simply because they didn’t have the “good” fortune of being born when things were affordable and horses were still the best mode of transport.
It's all history.
An all matching vet bringback in near mint condition tells a story.
A Russian capture/refurb tells a different story.
An East German postwar build/rebuild tells yet another story.
As for how well it shoots/cycles... Buy any of the above and a lotto ticket. Regardless of the attached story, the gun is more likely to be a winner, in terms of shootability, than the lotto ticket.
An all matching vet bringback in near mint condition tells a story.
A Russian capture/refurb tells a different story.
An East German postwar build/rebuild tells yet another story.
As for how well it shoots/cycles... Buy any of the above and a lotto ticket. Regardless of the attached story, the gun is more likely to be a winner, in terms of shootability, than the lotto ticket.
There really isn't anything wrong with the RC Mausers IMHO. Lets face it, it's a positive testament to the manufacturing standards over 75 years ago that their parts were interchangeable to the point that millions of them were mismatched and still functioned reliably to the standards they were built for. As mentioned, it's all part of the particular history of these rifles. As for whether they were field pick ups, surrenders, captures or found in depots and needed to be refinished is all up to our personal imaginations.
That being said, I prefer the East German reworks. They went the extra mile to maintain parts matching and only replaced broken or worn out parts, which are easily discernible by an electropenciled number on the part. Some RC bolts had a large number electropenciled on the body to match receivers. EVERY East German rework I've seen has had their original bolt or maybe a replacement that was STAMPED with the number on the receiver. Same goes for stocks.
Some of the Yugo reworks are very good as well.
IMHO, if you're looking for collectibles then pay the big buck NOW, before prices go through the roof.
If you want a REAL, all matching GERMAN BUILT Mauser 98 variant, take a serious look at the South American Mausers. They have gone up in price exponentially over the past five years. The only thing people have against them is they weren't used by Germany. Guess what, neither were most of the German built K98s produced, before or after WWII. Germany supplied all sorts of nations with K98 Mausers, with German proof marks, some of which may have been military.
IMHO, if you can find a decent K98 and you're looking for a shooter. Purchase the rifle with the best barrel condition you can find. It will almost always be a good shooter as long as the bedding is good as well or the stock isn't cracked or warped.
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That being said, I prefer the East German reworks. They went the extra mile to maintain parts matching and only replaced broken or worn out parts, which are easily discernible by an electropenciled number on the part. Some RC bolts had a large number electropenciled on the body to match receivers. EVERY East German rework I've seen has had their original bolt or maybe a replacement that was STAMPED with the number on the receiver. Same goes for stocks.
Some of the Yugo reworks are very good as well.
IMHO, if you're looking for collectibles then pay the big buck NOW, before prices go through the roof.
If you want a REAL, all matching GERMAN BUILT Mauser 98 variant, take a serious look at the South American Mausers. They have gone up in price exponentially over the past five years. The only thing people have against them is they weren't used by Germany. Guess what, neither were most of the German built K98s produced, before or after WWII. Germany supplied all sorts of nations with K98 Mausers, with German proof marks, some of which may have been military.
IMHO, if you can find a decent K98 and you're looking for a shooter. Purchase the rifle with the best barrel condition you can find. It will almost always be a good shooter as long as the bedding is good as well or the stock isn't cracked or warped.
TURF THE LIBERALS IN 2019
LIBERALS REALLY LIKE POOR PEOPLE, they're making more of them every day
If you can't vote CPC, stay at home in protest.
