Karl Bebar SAIL Vaughn Gunsmithing services

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Just as an FYI SAIL in Vaughn ( 137 Chrislea Rd, Woodbridge, ON L4L 8N6) has a gunsmith who is a former Czech military Armourer. He has been a gunsmith for 50 years. With all the insanity of having to wait months on end to see a smith for work these days I thought I'd let you know about him.

Any of you who need work done on your guns look him up. He's definetly an interesting character with decades of experience to draw upon.

I promised I'd mention him and hope people would catch on like they did when I introduced Nick from Vulcan to CGN years ago.

Some of the work he has done for me has been simply unbelievable.

Definetly a under utilized talent.
 
I bought a scope from Sail in Oshawa and brought it along with my rifle to Vaughan store so their gunsmith would install it on my rifle. They said they would call me when it is ready. Two days later I came to pick it up (nobody called me!) and it was ready. Took it to the range and had hard time trying to zero it in. Spent the whole day trying with the laser and other ways. Some more experienced shooters at the range helped me too. Only when I brought it home and started cleaning the rifle I found out that one of the bolts on the scope rings is loose. Wasted the whole day at the range and about 100 rounds of ammo. It all happened last week.
I had another issue with the same gunsmith a year ago when he was fixing my shotgun bought from the same Vaughan store (would not recycle) and returned it to me twice saying that it was fixed when it was not. A salesperson at the counter tested it and it would not recycle. Based on my experience I would not go to this store for gunsmith work.
 
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PeteKalin said:
I bought a scope from Sail in Oshawa and brought it along with my rifle to Vaughan store so their gunsmith would install it on my rifle. They said they would call me when it is ready. Two days later I came to pick it up (nobody called me!) and it was ready. Took it to the range and had hard time trying to zero it in. Spent the whole day trying with the laser and other ways. Some more experienced shooters at the range helped me too. Only when I brought it home and started cleaning the rifle I found out that one of the bolts on the scope rings is loose. Wasted the whole day at the range and about 100 rounds of ammo. It all happened last week.
I had another issue with the same gunsmith a year ago when he was fixing my shotgun bought from the same Vaughan store (would not recycle) and returned it to me twice saying that it was fixed when it was not. A salesperson at the counter tested it and it would not recycle. Based on my experience I would not go to this store for gunsmith work.
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I think I heard about this? What kind of gun was it, was it a mini 14 by chance?

Just out of curiousity how do you know the screw did not come loose after the 100 rounds? You always need to check all the particular pieces of your mount during the first initial trial of a scope install. After you tightened the mount did accuracy improve, honestly.

What kind of shotgun did you have the issues with?

Did he fix the issues for after you brought it to his attention?
 
There in lies the troubles with giving a personal recommendation for a guys work.
There is way more to the story of the one dissatisfied customer.
100 rnds and you still couldnt get it to group?
After the first 10 I would have been looking at bases and rings and the first sign of incompetence (if there is one) would have been no thread locker on the screws.
Going back a second time to the same store ??
Lesson would have been learned by the first experience..was the lack of recycling a round do to the gun being a Remington Express?
there are many threads of dissatisfied customers who bought an inexpensive gun and found they couldnt eject a cheap (price check) round do to the base of the round swelling.
A simple polish of the chamber would take care of that and that has been a quick fix of many a coffee table gun smith (no offense to the dedicated professional gunsmiths).
Some will agree , some will say I am nucking futs , but just my typical early morning coffee infused opinion.
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
PeteKalin said:
I bought a scope from Sail in Oshawa and brought it along with my rifle to Vaughan store so their gunsmith would install it on my rifle. They said they would call me when it is ready. Two days later I came to pick it up (nobody called me!) and it was ready. Took it to the range and had hard time trying to zero it in. Spent the whole day trying with the laser and other ways. Some more experienced shooters at the range helped me too. Only when I brought it home and started cleaning the rifle I found out that one of the bolts on the scope rings is loose. Wasted the whole day at the range and about 100 rounds of ammo. It all happened last week.
I had another issue with the same gunsmith a year ago when he was fixing my shotgun bought from the same Vaughan store (would not recycle) and returned it to me twice saying that it was fixed when it was not. A salesperson at the counter tested it and it would not recycle. Based on my experience I would not go to this store for gunsmith work.
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Sail in Oshawa is a joke. My brother had his scope mounted there (idk why, I would have done it in a heartbeat) and the crosshairs were WAY off level, my 4 year old daughter could do better, seriously. The misinformation they spread at their counters also would be funny if they didn't take themselves so seriously.
 
MRCLARK said:
I think I heard about this? What kind of gun was it, was it a mini 14 by chance?
Just out of curiousity how do you know the screw did not come loose after the 100 rounds? You always need to check all the particular pieces of your mount during the first initial trial of a scope install. After you tightened the mount did accuracy improve, honestly.
What kind of shotgun did you have the issues with?
Did he fix the issues for after you brought it to his attention?
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was it a mini 14 by chance? - Yes
Just out of curiousity how do you know the screw did not come loose after the 100 rounds? - probably this is what happened but i am sure it should be tight enough not to come loose after only 100 rounds.
After you tightened the mount did accuracy improve, honestly. - yes, it is very accurate even when shooting without a scope.
What kind of shotgun did you have the issues with? - Benelli Super Vinci. The problem was not that he did not fix it but that he said he did. Simple tests right in the store revealed that it was not fixed.
 
Just out of curiousity what was the issue with the Benelli, and what was the fix. Never heard of one having issues before.

The mini 14 mounts are a bit of a pain and reportedly need constant attention. The only real way to keep them trouble free is loctite but even the blue on the threads but can be an issue breaking them free I hear.
 
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