Keep that Service Rifle well lubed: Here's help!

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So here I am walking along the hallways of my high school and I find TWO :eek: almost empty bottles of Visine along the hallway leading out to the SMOKING Area/Sidewalk. :) Hmmmm I wonder why the students need ANY Visine? :cool:

Either way, I scooped them up and using some "Goof Off", peeled off the labels nicely and then refilled them with some CLP.

Have a gander at the photos:

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Many of you know me from the Service Rifle and Service CQB circles and I'm an advocate for constantly keeping your AR bolt carrier (and other boomsticks, too) :evil: lubed up!

I always have a small bottle on my MOLLE vest (grenade pouch is great for this) for Service Rifle/CQB shooters should they ever exhibit sluggish bolt carrier operation(s), then I'm there to ensure the moving parts are well lubed.

Often in all my hunting and sniper rig cheek piece pouches, I will also have another CLP/Gun Oil/Lubricant bottle inside.

So there you go. If you ever encounter any more Visine bottles, scoop them up and reuse them for firearms lubricant and you are good to go.... :dancingbanana:

Here's another suggestion for an alternate squeeze bottle. My son had "pinkeye" infection years ago and was given a prescribed medicine (eye drops) for this annoying problem. Once the situation cleared up, I rinsed the bottle out and filled it with some Hoppe's Gun Oil (orange bottle from Cambodian Tire) and left this oil bottle in the pouch of my sniper rifle Eagle cheek piece. :)


Cheers all!

Barney
 
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I'll see what I can find at work. We get people bringing in medication to be disposed of all the time and sometimes eye drop bottles make it back. I'll check our supplier too and see if I can get any clean, unused bottled.

Great idea though!
 
I use an empty glue stick tube to hold a half ounce of moly grease.

I bet a friendly pharmacist could supply an eye dropper type container for CLP.
been doing that for years- the oiler i use doesn't fit in the PISTOL GRIP CAVITY- hence, the eyedropper with the lube in it- diovan ( prescription needed) that is used for glaucoma comes in that size bottle, as does the mil-tec samples
be careful and get the eyedroppers that come with products- NOT THE OTC ONES- these have GLASS CYLINDERS and are VERY FRAGILE- but LEE VALLEY makes a BETTER syringe for 4.50 or so - ask hungry about that
 
I was just google'ing "Eye Drop Bottles" :D

I found a bunch of different sizes, but frankly, the spirit of this discussion is not to spend a whack of $$ , but to re-use all kinds of bottles around the place (house, workplace, smoking picnic table...) for being able to 'de-cant' into smaller and handier containers that will fit in your A2 buttstock or cheekpiece (for you sniper rifle dudes) or grenade pouch for my MOLLE mirror kommandos like me. :ninja:

Truth be told, back in Battle School, Wainwright, Alberta; my section cmdr Sgt Jack Rayner (Thanks, wherever you are) instructed us to keep certain things inside your/our '64 pattern grenade pouch:

* roll of wire (found in M49A1 smoke grenades canister)
* 25' of paracord
* couple of short pencils
* small pad of H2Oproof paper
* eye dropper bottle of gun oil for our FNC1A1's
* couple of small rags
* cutdown toothbrush (you do replace your toothbrushes on a regular basis do you?)
* cutdown 1/2" wide paintbrush (cleaning sand/dirt from wpns)

And then when I got to the Battalion... I added a spare chapstick

Today I slide in :

* small Dollar Store bottle of hand sanitizer (needed in the target butts, you know why) ;)
* short ball point pen (always used in the butts for score keeping)
* back up ear plugs (someone always forgets), real cheap at Mark's Work Wearhouse

Now to take some pictures of my little oil bottles I've accumulated over the years....

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The Militec is on the left, it came as a free sample years ago. This one sits in my briefcase for work.
The white eye drop bottle is from when my son had 'pink eye' or Conjunctivitis. After it cleared up, I snagged the bottle from him. These come from your local drug store... hint, hint!

Of course the Visine with CLP is there for comparison....

Then finally Jean C. Garand's input: the oiler/grease bottle found in the buttstock of your M1 Garand (well, I found mine anyways) or M14 made by TRW.

As I was putting things away before my morning workout... I tried fitting all of these into my Magpul MIAD pistol grip! NOT a single one of them would fit in there! Hey, I tried. :eek: Oh well, the buttstock carrier it is for these oil bottles!



Cheers and I hope all this helps! Happy Easter! Celebrate with family! :)

Barney
 
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Hey Barney;

How do you find the Militec-1? I've been using CLP for years, first with the Cadets, and then just generally because a family source supplied and stood by the product. He has a heck of a lot more experience than I, so I just followed the advice...

Now that I own some nicer gear (CZ-858, but more particularly my RFB), I'm thinking about regular lubing and perhaps a metal conditioner. Would the Militec be worth acquiring? Using in combination with CLP?

I'm going to go start a thread for general opinions, but I was told you'd be an excellent person to ask, and here you are in the list of results when I searched "Militec".

Cheers,
Happy holiday to you and your's as well!
 
It's funny that after all the years of having bottles of Visine and other eye cooling solutions around I never knew you could pop off the top of the bottles to refill.

I was seconds away from posting an embarassing "how did you get the fluid into that tiny little hole?" question! :D

Great tip, I now have a variety of cleaning products lined up in Visine bottles.
 
I cannot reliably speak for the Militec because I keep on mixing up all my lubes on my Armalite Midlength. I read that the soldiers in dry sandy conditions like the Militec because it is supposed to 'condition' the metal surface with heat, and then become a dry lube.

I have a 4 oz bottle I bought from the USA years ago. Too busy and too lazy to do experimentation, so I just run my AR15 WET with gun oil, motor oil, Kroil, Hoppe's Gun Oil, and then CLP. Somewhere along the route, I dump some Militec on it. Just keep your AR lubed.

So do you have access to lots of Militec? :D

Cheers,
Barney
 
I have read that some US troops in Iraq used a mix of CLP and ATF (Transmission fluid), can't remember the ratio (4:1?), a sort of soldiers Ed's Red.
 
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No particular access to Militec.. I was just going to have a bottle sent to a UPS store in the States and pick it up on my next run down.

I'm going to do more looking before I post a thread on this... I don't want to waste people's time if the information it readily available. It just doesn't seem to be.

I have access to independent third party and government testing reports on firearms, I just wish somebody other than the forces had done the same for gun oils!
 
No particular access to Militec.. I was just going to have a bottle sent to a UPS store in the States and pick it up on my next run down.

I'm going to do more looking before I post a thread on this... I don't want to waste people's time if the information it readily available. It just doesn't seem to be.

I have access to independent third party and government testing reports on firearms, I just wish somebody other than the forces had done the same for gun oils!

Several online comparisons show Militec to be poor as a corrosion preventer. For example:
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I use Eezox since I live on the Wet coast and am an indifferent gun maintainer.
 
Several online comparisons show Militec to be poor as a corrosion preventer.

WOW. Good information Scott; Appreciate that. So I can tell you for sure I won't be running anything dry with Militec only... Hopefully that means I can have the best of both worlds.

It is really shocking to see the rust in those photos. Picture is worth a thousand words. Excellent find!
 
I cannot reliably speak for the Militec because I keep on mixing up all my lubes on my Armalite Midlength. I read that the soldiers in dry sandy conditions like the Militec because it is supposed to 'condition' the metal surface with heat, and then become a dry lube.


Dry lubes do not help dirt/carbon flow away from bearing surfaces, nor do they help dissipate heat. They are also not that slippery compared to a real oil.

The navy uses Burke's gun oil NSN #9150-20-001-7107 because nothing protects better from corrosion.

The rangers use it in the arctic because it works better than anything on the market.

It pours to -85 F and functions C7/C8 to that temperature.

I watched a 6,000 round test repeated several times at room temperature on C7A2 with no malfunctions.

I used it in Afghanistan.

...and it's CANADIAN.
 
Dry lubes do not help dirt/carbon flow away from bearing surfaces, nor do they help dissipate heat. They are also not that slippery compared to a real oil.

The navy uses Burke's gun oil NSN #9150-20-001-7107 because nothing protects better from corrosion.

The rangers use it in the arctic because it works better than anything on the market.

It pours to -85 F and functions C7/C8 to that temperature.

I watched a 6,000 round test repeated several times at room temperature on C7A2 with no malfunctions.

I used it in Afghanistan.

...and it's CANADIAN.

Awesome input. Maybe I should give it a try! Then again, I'm just a range bum and mirror kommando! :D
 
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