Kel-Tech KSG would you buy one?

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have you or would you buy a ksg shotgun if it was available at your local gun store?

Me personally i would if the price was half-ed because its made of plastic and for its current price tag i can get a nice wood or steel shotgun. the only thing it has over the competition is the bullpup and the large magazine size but the canadian g'ment might play around with it.:canadaFlag:
 
After having handled one but not having a chance to shoot one, and shooting a Benelli M4 Entry (14" Barrel) at the current prices (about $1600) I would get a Benelli M4 before getting a KSG. However, if I do shoot one and simply love it, then I will get one but will wait until I can buy one at the normal price. Guns are a hobby, and I don't mind if I have too wait a bit before I can have one, Plenty of other guns to keep me occupied.

Mike
 
I wouldn't buy any Kel Tec product.

Kel Tec is a relatively new company that IMO has spread itself too thin. Instead of building and perfecting a couple choice guns, they entered too many markets with a sub par product.

My only experience with their guns is ~300 rounds through a SU16, ~100 through a Sub2000, and ~1000 through a PF9. A friend owns the pistol, he lives in Vegas so we drove out to the sand with a few toys ;), the gun felt like a Chinese toy. The rifles belong to a couple local buddies. The SU was a disaster from day one with pierced primers and all the fun that went with that. The Sub shoots quite well but feels like it'll snap in half.

I might consider the RFB, but not even for half the price. I think there's far better guns to be had.

As far as innovation, Kel Tec is well up the ladder. The RFB and the KSG are some bad ass looking SOBs. :cool: But I won't pay the premium for looks alone.

This is only my opinion, if you don't like it I'll give you a refund.
 
no. ive been tempted to buy Kel-Tec products - especially the SU-16 (in the pursuit of the mystical non-restricted AR-style rifle), and was just doing a last-minute forum search on them to see if i could find any deals when i found out about the receiver failures. so i held off and have been waiting for Kel-Tec to address these issues in both its current and upcoming designs.

Kel-Tec has proven that it is rushing out guns designed to look cool and appeal to the Magpul mall-ninja crowd, but they are untested designs out of substandard materials.

granted every gun manufacturer can - and often does - manufacture some lemons, and some designs have the odd reliability issue from time to time. but after the rash of SU-16 receivers breaking from normal use (from the metal bolt hammering the plastic receiver) Kel-Tec should have been extra careful and put any new product designs through thorough stress testing before greenlighting mass production. it seems that they did not bother to do that, since there is no way the broken rails would have went through a proper product testing and development process. people are breaking them the first DAY they get the gun, FFS.

im not sure how they are going to handle this.. theyve made thousands of KSGs and theyre breaking left and right. what are they going to do, replace the rail under warranty and tell the customer not to put a foregrip on it? thats the entire point of having the front rail. this should have been caught and addressed during product development and testing - a stage Kel-Tec seems to be skipping, or at least skimming through.

a lot of people are rabidly anti-plastic. i am not at all: i think that modern composites have their place on guns and can offer improvements in weight/weather resistance/ergonomics/function/etc when used in the right areas and applications. that said, i do not believe that plastics should be used in the critical high-wear/high-impact/high-stress areas that Kel-Tec is indiscriminately using them in -- and their failures prove it.
oh, and BTW, its July. Wait till January and see what else breaks when the plastic becomes even more brittle.

of course someone will jump in with the whole Glock argument in a minute.... but if you think that Kel-Tec making receivers and rails out of plastic is anything but a production cost-saving measure you are sadly mistaken.

people are saying 'it doesnt cost that much, so its not as if a $2500 gun were breaking'. yeah, at ~$1000 its not the most expensive gun in the world, but there is still a basic level of quality and reliability that you should expect from a gun. for that much money you can get an all steel 870 Police with several mods/accessories, and it will endure a lifetime of hard use. its not bristling with plastic picatinny rails and doesnt look as cool, but it will be recognized as a time-tested, reliable tool as opposed to a tacticool toy.

if you own a KSG or plan to get one despite the Kel-Tec quality issues, knowing what you are getting into but willing to do so anyway because you like the design and features - thats great, and i sincerely wish you luck. but dont try and convince people that this is a rock-solid platform supported by a quality manufacturer.
 
I had one, but just could not get over the feeling that it would break.....sold it and bought a Valtro 14" with two mags.........same capacity as the KSG.
 
Looks cool, has nice features, but at that price, I'll stick with my Mv 88. All in it cost me around $600 including the Burris optic.

Just because I love the pic, I'll post it here as well :D :

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I have one. I also have a Sub-2000 and just sold my SU-16F. My SU had all the AR wanna be parts on it. It was very cool and part of me will always regret selling it. I sold it though for a real AR. The SU is lighter and has a better trigger than some stock AR's Ive fired.
Kel Tec are what they are. As for the KSG. Well compare it to highend tactical shot guns and you'll see it's actually cheaper. At the end of the day it's just a range toy. You cant keep it loaded in the house and its too slow to load in ano emergency so it's really no good for home defence.
Like most guns we buy here it's a few hundred more than than the American price so the price didnt bother me. I love mine and will never part with it but it is what it is, a range toy or a gun ill use for ipsc 3 gun matches. Ill take it hunting but only in the hopes that it'll become a conversation piece that ill use to tell people what sorts of guns we can actually get up here.
 
I agree with 9x19 to new and to many problems with my experience. RFB is one bad ass looking gun but for that price I rather pay the lil extra and get the Tavor21. KSG on the other hand tho I might have to go against everything I just said it looks really cool and looks like a fun range gun.
 
I owned RFB, Su16, PMR30, PLR-22, KSG and sub2000. Now I only have RFB, KSG, and Sub2000 and I'm super happy with these guns.. I used RFB for deer hunting and will deffinately do it again. KSG is great bear defense gun to take with you while out camping or trailing.. And Sub 2000 with few minor upgrades is a great plinker..

So would I by a KSG (or other Kel-tec products)?? Absolutely !!!!!!!!

It looks like there is a "polymerfobia" virus going around CGN !!!
 
Had a sub2000, I wanted to like it... but the sights were installed crooked and there was no service/support for this in Canada.

I could accept the crooked sights (it shot straight) if I had only spent a couple hundred bucks, but for the price I paid I wanted a little bit of quality to show.

If I was assured everything on the gun was perfect, I'd consider one. But no, I won't gamble on one again.
 
if you own a KSG or plan to get one despite the Kel-Tec quality issues, knowing what you are getting into but willing to do so anyway because you like the design and features - thats great, and i sincerely wish you luck. but dont try and convince people that this is a rock-solid platform supported by a quality manufacturer.

Very well said... agreed entirely... :D
 
I like the basic idea, and hope to see similar offerings from other manufacturers, but both because I don't trust Keltec and because the KSG seems awkward to load quickly, I wouldn't buy one.
 
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