Kel Tek RFB or Travor 21

AJCrowley said:
Specifically the Tavor. "Tavor Eye" seems to be a fairly common syndrome. I'm not familiar with any other firearms that have the sensation of an eye full of hot dirty gas named after them.
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That seems to go away with use. It may be the result of factory lube or a preservative. Not sure but right now it's not a problem with mine. The problems went away on it's own.

One advantage over the Tavor. You can do quick mag changes much like an AR by ejecting the mag with your shooting hand while using your left to put in a new mag. All without your shooting hand leaving the pistol grip and your index finger still on the frame. You can't do this with the RFB. Your fast changes will be more like an AK where you use one mag to hit the release and then put that mag in.

The Tavor is a battle tested rifle. Personally I think it's a great firearm. This from a guy who is also very found of the AR platform.

The RFB isn't a military rifle. I personally think the RFB will be the defining firearm to show Wendy and crew that they don't know what they're talking about. We've had to listen to them tell us that semi auto version of military rifles which they claim are "assault" rifles have no use for hunting etc. Yet the AR15 is the number one varminter, and the AR10 a huge success for hunting in the US. These are simply the modern rifle.

Now we have a semi auto bullpup without an automatic or military version. You can't argue that it's a military rifle since it isn't. Everyone who wants one, can't wait to go hunt with it. It's a unique situation where we have a civilian sport rifle first that could be adapted later for other uses.

I should have one in a few weeks. I'm looking forward to it. :D
 
I own a Tavor, and I have never been as pleased with it as I wish I had been, too many downsides in terms of ergonomics and design for my liking.

I am really looking forward to getting an RFB.
 
I have a RFB on order, and i seriously considered the tavor for a long time (went with XCR in 6.8)

RFB vs Tavor, for me its more 308 vs 223. I'm a big fan of 308 and for a Non-Res rifle I prefer the 308 over 223/556 (I hunt Moose/Deer)

Just my 2cents
 
haha49 said:
People keep saying RFB but very few people have shot them... o well I will get the RFB
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I've got an RFB (and shot it a few times) but not a Tavor so it's really hard to say (as I haven't shot the Tavor). The RFB is great but there is an initial break-in period to overcome before it really starts to shine. With that said though (and I've mentioned in another thread)...the RFB rifle is my silver medal. My AR wins the gold...better trigger, better balanced, lighter...no real break-in required (and ammo is cheaper). So, with that in mind, and limited by your 2 choices...I'd say RFB (otherwise I'd say go with a high end AR).
 
I had the opposite with an AR- the thing was so tight it didn't run well until a couple rounds went down the pipe.

The RFB is awesome, it's a non-restricted 308 bullpup ffs! Ammo is expensive compared to .223, reloading takes the sting away, but if you're looking to dump a lot of rounds downrange, it'll still cost you.

The tavor is awesome too! Non-restricted 5.56 bullpup! The trigger sucks, but it doesn't make the rifle unusable. I took epoxy's advice and do mag changes his way and they're quick. Some people complain about getting gases in their face, it doesn't bother me that much.

5.56/.223 is cheaper than 308 and you can use 10 round LAR mags. I won't sell either of them. I love them both, and don't know which one would suit you better.

For big game hunting and plinking-RFB.
For varmint hunting and plinking- tavor
 
In general I would take the RFB. If I had spare cash, the Tavor is a close second.

Lots of good reviews on the Tavor with the exception of the optics, which cause higher price; even higher still once you've bought good optics on top of it. Plus if you like the .223 then you're set. I'm more and more interested in this caliber owing to it's beautiful performance with minimal recoil.

The RFB seems solidly built (that was my big concern, but it seems to be an unfounded fear). If you reload then ammo won't be a huge issue, especially considering this gun doesn't fling brass all over hells half acre like almost every other semi-auto out there. No idea on accuracy, but this gun has the attributes to make it a very versatile all round hunting/black gun/midrange shooter/backpack gun. My only complaint is lack of irons. Especially for any sort of quick shooting (forest hunting) a scope isn't ideal and leaving an electronic sight running isn't viable.
 
Throttle_monkey1 said:
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The tavor is awesome too! Non-restricted 5.56 bullpup! The trigger sucks, but it doesn't make the rifle unusable. I took epoxy's advice and do mag changes his way and they're quick. Some people complain about getting gases in their face, it doesn't bother me that much.
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Gun Tap above the seams/gap where the Gas tube assy ends (I believe it's called that), anyway the area just in front of your face, gets ride of the gas issue.

Would love an RFB, but the cost of ammo is keeping me away... but could be tempted.
 
Throttle_monkey1 said:
Gun tap??
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Surprised as to the technique of putting Duct Tape on a 3,000$ gun or the definition of gun tape or the fact I misspelled it :D

Gun Tape: 1" wide Black (or green) thick duct tape, sold at gun/outdoor stores to patch tents and stuff.... why it's called gun tape ?? I dunno but it's great stuff..and it keeps the crap out of my eyes!
 
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